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Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by xbar »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #71
MrGilbert wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do understand that there are channels out there doing drama for the sake of drama. I do understand that, after over 6 years of following now, JayzTwoCents and especially GamersNexus are no such channels. Furthermore, I do understand that if you have a business relationship with a sponsor, you request products which you will then show on your channel for the sake of reviewing. You are not getting it for free. Compan…

> Companies do get a review or visibility in return. They get a favorable review or they cut the channel off. This is how media centered around consumable gear has always worked. Honest players aren't given early access or any at all so as to diminish their influence.

This is a good and healthy attitude to have and I do not want to diminish it. This is how I view all channels, generally.

In this case, at this time, Gamers Nexus is pretty well respected as an entity that re-invests its success in increasing technical validation capability, and has been cut off more than once by vendors, leading to having to purchase its own hardware. They currently have my respect and trust on this motherboard topic.

Jayz2Cents? His content is just not the same, but he does have a genuinely consumer-focused attitude, though.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by xbar »

so-and-so wrote: post #10

Asus used to be a great company run by great engineers, but in the last couple of years their motherboards have become terrible. By far the worst of the big 4.

I agree completely. I replaced a 2015-era Asus Intel board with a 2021-era Asus Intel board of the same general product line (Prime) and found a great many deficiencies relative to their prior product. I had even moved "up" from the basic entry in the line. Many hassles and several missing features later, I am convinced not to purchase Asus again.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by Dwedit »

MrGilbert wrote: post #8

Asus is currently in a bad spot, as they released a BIOS update as Beta, which should address an issue where their boards would cause a CPU to explode. They did, however, leave the usual "this is beta, install on your own risk, this will void your warranty" disclaimer on, which currently backfires, as it seems as if Asus does not want to take responsibility. It is unknown if the statement was intentional , or just th…

Just wait until Windows Update automatically rolls out a beta BIOS update to every customer.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by bastardoperator »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #98
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Companies do get a review or visibility in return. They get a favorable review or they cut the channel off. This is how media centered around consumable gear has always worked. Honest players aren't given early access or any at all so as to diminish their influence.

Which is why Steve/Gamers Nexus often has to buy hardware to review on their own dollar. They're not the least bit shy about being critical when it's called for, which has landed them on the blacklists of some hardware manufacturers.

How can I expect take any reviewer seriously when they're getting paid by the people they're reviewing? It sounds like the guy in this video didn't get a sponsorship agreement and went scorched earth. I can at least respect Steve to some degree despite his constant negativity, that he will say what he feels regardless. I don't alway agree with the doom and gloom, but that's his style and it seems to work for him.

I could understand this Jay person being with upset with Asus if they had some skin in the game but getting upset about free merchandize is outlandish, especially when you're requesting gear to essentially give away which is exactly what he mentions doing. The level of entitlement is off the charts. I'm also unsure why he mentioned the box having all sorts of labels from China on it.

Here's the real irony. Just weeks ago this youtuber built themselves a rig with a 7950X3D, and given all the offerings available, they chose Asus. He even uses language in his rant to describe Asus as "seemingly solid". So the question is, what is this really about?

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

Quarrel wrote: post #82
NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #3

As a corollary, then, is it legal to buy negative reviews on competing products?

It isn't legal for them to buy positive reviews in the UK. They might have some problems with the Advertising Regulator, but their bigger problems would be with the Competitions & Market Authority. Misleading & deceptive conduct to sell your goods is illegal in the UK (and the EU & Australia and other places). Negative reviews would seriously open you to being sued by the people you are review bombing..

I thought that deceptive conduct to sell goods is illegal everywhere, as that pretty closely matches the textbook definition of fraud ("gain through deception")?

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by imachine1980_ »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #77
MrGilbert wrote: post #8

Asus is currently in a bad spot, as they released a BIOS update as Beta, which should address an issue where their boards would cause a CPU to explode. They did, however, leave the usual "this is beta, install on your own risk, this will void your warranty" disclaimer on, which currently backfires, as it seems as if Asus does not want to take responsibility. It is unknown if the statement was intentional , or just th…

> this is beta, install on your own risk, this will void your warranty I’ve seen an increasing number of products I own prompt me to join a beta program that, if accepted, voids the warranty of the device. I help them vet early features before they roll them out to all of their users and, in exchange, they… ask me to let them maybe brick my device at my expense? Who agrees to these terms?

if not maybe expode, whit asus at least you are not safe ¯\_('_')_/¯, but maybe you have your pc back.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by lesuorac »

rsynnott wrote: post #61
mk67 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn, that sounds insane. Is the UK the only country in the world with this? What is the reason?

As mentioned elsewhere, the UK does _not_ have this, but there are libel systems, generally old-fashioned ones, where truth is not an absolute defence (a couple of US states still have criminal libel laws where truth may not be an absolute defence, though use of these presumably wouldn’t be constitutional, say).

i.e. Japan where even if something is true there needs to be an actual public interest in my publishing of it.

[1] > Under Article 230-1 of the Criminal Code of Japan:

> “(1) A person who defames another by alleging facts in public shall, regardless of whether such facts are true or false, be punished by imprisonment with or without work for not more than three (3) years or a fine of not more than 500,000 yen.”

Personally I like the UK model where the speaker is on the hook for knowing what they say is true. It shouldn't be too much to ask people to avoid making an unfounded claim ...

[1]: https://kellywarnerlaw.com/japan-defamation-laws

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by simpleintheory »

LegitShady wrote: post #52
faeyanpiraat wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a reference for that?

Its sort of in their wikipedia. Pegasus was the production arm of asustek, was spun off into their own company, but asus is still the largest single shareholder but doesn't have a majority ownership. Pegasus owns Asrock.

Did you mean Pegatron?

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by LegitShady »

simpleintheory wrote: post #109
LegitShady wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its sort of in their wikipedia. Pegasus was the production arm of asustek, was spun off into their own company, but asus is still the largest single shareholder but doesn't have a majority ownership. Pegasus owns Asrock.

Did you mean Pegatron?

autocorrect does
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