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Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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Don't think it will work. Banks accounts are federally insured.

Here in Europe is's only 100k per account per holder. (Used to be 20K in NL)

Having 100k in a bank account seems to be well into 1%-er territory. I don't think that's going to do much for the alleged PR campaign conspiracy.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#103
In theory, a bank can borrow reserves from/via the Fed to fulfill redemption requests, so long as the Fed and other lenders in the financial system think the bank has a sound balance sheet (i.e., its assets, including the loans it has made, are truly worth more than its liabilities, including the deposit balances it owes to depositors). The Fed can never run out of money to lend; it creates it out of thin air to lend them as needed with the push of a button.

If a bank does get in trouble, it's usually because its balance sheet is not sound (i.e., assets are not really worth more than liabilities). In the case of SVB, a big portion of its assets are loans made to startups. Who knows how many of those loans are at risk of default in this environment? Simultaneously, many of SVB's depositors are also startups that at the moment can't raise more capital and thus have been withdrawing money from their bank accounts to fund their cash burn. I suspect SVB can't sell its doubtful loans, or use them as collateral, so it has been forced to sell high-quality long-duration assets purchased when rates were much lower, recognizing large losses.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#104

From https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/09/silicon-valley-banks-share... : Becker said the bank has “ample liquidity” to support its clients “with one exception: If everybody is telling each other that SVB is in trouble, that will be a challenge.” Pro tip: if you're CEO of a bank that's facing a bank run, don't tell the press that you'll be in trouble if everybody takes their money out.

Every bank is screwed if everybody takes all their money out. And everybody already knows it.

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Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#105

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Yes, it does. Lying is wrong[1]. Therefore, it is bad to base your banking system on it. It's the typical thing where the costs to the system accrete over time and then cause a crisis: the elites are bailed out, the taxpayers eat it. There wouldn't need to be a reserve ratio. A dollar could, in theory, be lent out an infinite number of times, so long as that dollar were lent (and saved) at increasingly shorter durati…

If you think fractional reserve banking is “lying” how are you okay with fiat money at all? If you were consistent you’d be a true goldbug.

It is a fact that the IRS requires me to pay taxes in federal reserve notes.

That makes them real enough.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#106

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Who would deposit their money in a bank that wouldn't let them get it back for years?

I own a few CDs. They’re not an unusual financial product.

Yeah but I assume you also have money in an account that lets you withdraw it in less than two years?

A bank that only offers CDs or other long-duration deposits would be pretty weird.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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Who would deposit their money in a bank that wouldn't let them get it back for years?

I own a few CDs. They’re not an unusual financial product.

But the longest maturity for CDs is around 5-10 years, while banks loan out money for 15-30 years for mortgages.

And most banks probably have much more money deposited in checking and savings accounts than in CDs.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#108
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Perhaps I'm overly skeptical, but everyone should know that all banks have the risk of 'if everyone takes their money out, the bank won't be able to make it work', right?

Sure, and everyone knows that their favourite person in the world could just run them over in a car and kill them in seconds, but if your best friend says to you, “you know, I could drive my car into you and you would die… your life could be snuffed out with a moments notice” you may start to question your friendship.

This situation isnt like that at all.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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I assume you are trolling, but in case you are not. How would you provide loans to help get businesses started? How would you provide loans to people to buy their first homes? How would you provide loans so people can afford to go to school? How would you provide loans to buy a vehicle so people can get to/from their job before they get a paycheck? How would farmers afford to buy land, equipment and plant crops befor…

Savings. Frugality. Only consuming what we can actually afford. Investment with real skin in the game. If you have to take on much higher risk to get returns we will find ourselves being more careful about those returns actually happening.

> Savings.

Those savings are gonna grow at a pretty slow rate if you can't lend with interest.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#110

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Yes, it does. Lying is wrong[1]. Therefore, it is bad to base your banking system on it. It's the typical thing where the costs to the system accrete over time and then cause a crisis: the elites are bailed out, the taxpayers eat it. There wouldn't need to be a reserve ratio. A dollar could, in theory, be lent out an infinite number of times, so long as that dollar were lent (and saved) at increasingly shorter durati…

If you think fractional reserve banking is “lying” how are you okay with fiat money at all? If you were consistent you’d be a true goldbug.

Nope. I was a gold bug once, but I don't think it's a good way to manage the total money supply: it can't grow as fast as the economy (labor productivity) does. I view money is a public social tool, and so it should be owned by all of us. Hence I am in favor of a citizens dividend for growing the money supply.

I do think you should be able to trade fiat into gold and vice versa tax free, so gold can be used for savings, which it is very good at.

In fairness, nobody agrees with me on this stuff, including myself at times!

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