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Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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If you loan out deposits you are already set for a bank run. All it takes is the depositors to ask for their money back. One deposit. One loan. One withdrawal request.

Not if the deposit and loan are duration matched. "I want my money back." "Sure, you can have it in two years."

Who would deposit their money in a bank that wouldn't let them get it back for years?

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#72

I'm really curious why banks like this are popular in the first place. I get why startups would want to lend from them, but what is the advantage of parking cash in a "startup-focused" bank? The rest of the business is exciting/risky enough, wouldn't you want your banking to be as boring as possible?

People care about convenience of locations, ATMs, online experience, customer service, savings rate, (lack of) fees, rewards. The bank's underlying risk profile is irrelevant for the vast majority of customers. If you have <$250K in your account the money is safe either way.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#73

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Does that provide a better outcome for society than something like FDIC deposit insurance and the occasional run? Seems like for the vast majority of people it does not. Most banks make enough money to pay their FDIC premiums and some interest on demand accounts and profit for their shareholders, and the few that don't are covered by insurance. That seems way better than having to pay a monthly fee to keep my money s…

Yes, it does. Lying is wrong[1]. Therefore, it is bad to base your banking system on it. It's the typical thing where the costs to the system accrete over time and then cause a crisis: the elites are bailed out, the taxpayers eat it. There wouldn't need to be a reserve ratio. A dollar could, in theory, be lent out an infinite number of times, so long as that dollar were lent (and saved) at increasingly shorter durati…

Who is lying in this case?

Banks are one, if not the most, regulated companies in the US.

What are banks lying about and who are they lying to?

I'd assume the government would come down on them pretty hard if it turns out that all banks are lying to their customers as federal and state regulations on banks are pretty heavy handed to make sure that the vast majority of banks are healthy at any given time.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#77

I'm really curious why banks like this are popular in the first place. I get why startups would want to lend from them, but what is the advantage of parking cash in a "startup-focused" bank? The rest of the business is exciting/risky enough, wouldn't you want your banking to be as boring as possible?

Banks don't understand startups. Startups have no history and just appear out of thin air with millions of dollars in their bank account. And then they proceed to burn tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars month on month until they die, or get flooded with more millions.

That's some weird stuff!!

A bank that understands this, knows it's not fraudulent, and makes it easy to withdraw, deposit, get credit cards, give loans/venture debt, has a competitive advantage in this niche but highly lucrative sector—given they can operate with the right risk controls.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#78

From https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/09/silicon-valley-banks-share... : Becker said the bank has “ample liquidity” to support its clients “with one exception: If everybody is telling each other that SVB is in trouble, that will be a challenge.” Pro tip: if you're CEO of a bank that's facing a bank run, don't tell the press that you'll be in trouble if everybody takes their money out.

This is how every bank has always worked since banks were invented

Yes, but it’s pretty much always been problematic when a bank leader has had to make a statement akin to “We’re fine as long as there’s not a run”.

That’s the kind of thing that only gets said when there’s some concern that there will be a run.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

#80

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Thing is, I want to start a business but need several hundred thousand USD in machinery. Lathes or bakery ovens are not free after all. I don't have that right now, and if I need to save up for several decades the opportunity will have passed. How do I convince people to lend me money without any interest?

You can replace "want to start a business" with "want to buy a house" if you prefer.

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