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Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by koonsolo »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #48
DoreenMichele wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an old joke -- or perhaps humorous observation -- that men want to be the first person a woman sleeps with and women want to be the last person a man sleeps with. Men tend to be looking for sex. Women tend to be looking for long-term relationships. Another similar observation: Men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love.

I actually think its the complete opposite. Alot of nice looking well kept women just want sex

Biologically that makes no sense.

Having sex as a male basically has no consequences. Having sex as a woman can have huge consequences. Therefore, biologically the parent poster is correct.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#102

Post by bmn__ »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #48
DoreenMichele wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an old joke -- or perhaps humorous observation -- that men want to be the first person a woman sleeps with and women want to be the last person a man sleeps with. Men tend to be looking for sex. Women tend to be looking for long-term relationships. Another similar observation: Men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love.

I actually think its the complete opposite. Alot of nice looking well kept women just want sex

But they will not admit to that, that's why thread neighbour amir734jj has his confused opinion.

Women will almost always express their desire to ride the carousel obscured with virtue signal wording such as "finding myself", "enjoying my freedom/the party scene", and the like.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#103

Post by koonsolo »

dorkwood wrote: post #47
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

I thought I was a fairly attractive guy. I’ve had interest from attractive women in the past. On dating apps though? Crickets. I’ve had several friends vet my profile (who were quite brutal with their feedback, too) but I still only average around 1 match per week. If I’m supposed to be a somewhat attractive guy, I can imagine the vast majority of men must be getting no interest at all.

> I’ve had several friends vet my profile

Female or male friends?

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#104

Post by bmn__ »

koonsolo wrote: post #101
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think its the complete opposite. Alot of nice looking well kept women just want sex

Biologically that makes no sense. Having sex as a male basically has no consequences. Having sex as a woman can have huge consequences. Therefore, biologically the parent poster is correct.

Humans do not act on biological impulses and instincts alone, that's why your train of thought is not much aligned with reality.

Women rationally know that contraception pills exist and are effective, meaning the choice of getting pregnant is in their hands; (promiscuous) sex apparently has no consequences. This informs their actions.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#105

Post by koonsolo »

throwaway892238 wrote: post #77
barelyauser wrote: post #18

As an asian man who has traveled to LATAM and the US, I am not surprised. American women are super entitled, hard to approach and borderline delusional when selecting men. It is never enough for them. They are hard to approach, judgy and sincerely just a pain in the ass. Women in LATAM for example are a thousand times sweeter, more feminine and approachable.

Women in LATAM are also much more likely to get a boob job as teenagers (it was so common that until a law was passed preventing it, 30 percent of plastic surgeries in Colombia were on underage girls). LATAM cultures are in some ways more warm and welcoming, but in other ways more regressive/toxic, such as their gender roles and sexuality. Seems great to you because you're benefiting from it, but American women proba…

> but American women probably enjoy greater independence.

Hence not so comitted into a relationship.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#106

Post by bmn__ »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #20
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

There's an old joke -- or perhaps humorous observation -- that men want to be the first person a woman sleeps with and women want to be the last person a man sleeps with. Men tend to be looking for sex. Women tend to be looking for long-term relationships. Another similar observation: Men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love.

Love is the wrong word, it's unfortunately massively overloaded and culturally dependent to such an extent that there is very little chance of transporting meaning and understanding with it. I want to replace it with more accurate phrasing, rooted in human psychology.

A man gives commitment to get sex.

A woman gives sex to attain being provided for and protected.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#107

Post by bmn__ »

dorkwood wrote: post #47
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

I thought I was a fairly attractive guy. I’ve had interest from attractive women in the past. On dating apps though? Crickets. I’ve had several friends vet my profile (who were quite brutal with their feedback, too) but I still only average around 1 match per week. If I’m supposed to be a somewhat attractive guy, I can imagine the vast majority of men must be getting no interest at all.

> I thought I was a fairly attractive guy.

By sheer statistical chance alone, you are a normie (middle of the bell curve, where most people are) and overrate yourself.

> I’ve had several friends vet my profile

Seek out an unbiased attractiveness rating done by people who actually know the science, for example ratebywaffles. I bet that your friends received no training or sought to read the relevant sociology and psychology papers, so can't have more than a gut feeling and are basically clueless/misinformed about what the actual criteria are.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#108

Post by thefz »

barelyauser wrote: post #18

As an asian man who has traveled to LATAM and the US, I am not surprised. American women are super entitled, hard to approach and borderline delusional when selecting men. It is never enough for them. They are hard to approach, judgy and sincerely just a pain in the ass. Women in LATAM for example are a thousand times sweeter, more feminine and approachable.

In the US everything is a product and therefore must be profited off, including appearance.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

#110

Post by bmn__ »

csomar wrote: post #40
JesusLovesEwe wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think the situation is any better for young women, you're in for a shock. From where I'm sitting, the propaganda targeting women is far, far more pervasive and destructive. Everything about their relationships - the why, when, who and how - is undermined in an alarming majority of our institutions. Date many and often with no inhibitions, "have fun", don't get "tied down", delay marriage and family or abstain…

Because, eh, it's true? Kids might be good for society but they are not for the particular woman/individual in question. These woman are making the right choice individually. I see lots of happy 35-45 woman doing brunches in mall. Something tells me they are not missing too much on the family bandwagon.

It's easy to put up a happy face in public for an hour a week. Then they return to their empty home, where her only friends, Mr Venlafaxine, Mr Ginbottle and Mr Meow await, and it turns into a sour grimace. If you care to seek out the truth, then don't watch them at brunch, watch them vent in Tiktok videos with titles like "where are all the good men?" and "why won't any of my dates commit?".
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