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Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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I'm exactly in the target demographic that desperately wants a a return to the old, decentralized, protocol-based internet. We need working alternatives to Twitter to prevent a single mentally unstable billionaire from having this kind of power. But everything about Mastodon seems badly designed and engineered. The focus on "servers" seems technologically anachronistic, but worse, fragments the community and creates…

> But everything about Mastodon seems badly designed and engineered. The focus on "servers" seems technologically anachronistic Jack linked to nostr which tries to solve some of these problems: https://nitter.it/jack/status/1603945963944480768 > The problem with Mastodon and similar programs: - User identities are attached to domain names controlled by third-parties; - Server owners can ban you, just like Twitter; Se…

Previous HN discussions of Nostr:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29749061 (11 months ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33746360 (22 days ago)

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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This link shortener works: https://spacekaren.sucks/ It seems to work by blocking connections to the Twitterbot User-Agent while allowing other connections.

They'll then just ban links they can't open. They should serve some sort of content instead.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are on Twitter because of accounts like that, across the spectrum. It was the one place where you could find everyone, including politicians, organisations, journalists, experts, and random people with cool interests, and interact on a more or less equal basis. When enough of those leave it'll just become Truth Social or Parler. You might personally find that more fun and interesting, depending on your politic…

Musk could have kept twitter that universal platform and keeping an eye on political interference from within, knowing that right wing people would just trust him doing the right thing. But no, he wanted to make a big public outcry out of it, and he's now reaping the consequences.

It is the if e universal platform. He’s just getting rid of the toxic people that thought they were immune to the types of canceling they’ve asked for more of previously.

Live by the cancel, die by the cancel, I guess.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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If it becomes a popular trend for youtube channels to upload YouTube videos that are just previews with a links to Rumble videos, and the destination videos violate YouTube TOS, if YouTube created a Rumble filter to quickly address it, it would solve the problem. Would it be accurate to call this censorship or a quick and dirty solution against accounts trying to evade TOS? Framing the Mastodon filter by omitting tha…

This is being echoed throughout the thread but Mastodon instances whose TOS is similar or stricter than Twitter are also being banned. This is why I feel it's anti-competitive. The thing that makes yours a false equivalence is after looking up Rumble it appears to be a centralized. This is more like if Microsoft decided to block servers without the Windows Server headers citing the use of Linux servers in illegal activity. Windows server likely does make up a small amount of CP servers but that's not something within the control of those software competitors. In both instances the only link between illegal content and the vast majority of legit users is using a competing software.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are on Twitter because of accounts like that, across the spectrum. It was the one place where you could find everyone, including politicians, organisations, journalists, experts, and random people with cool interests, and interact on a more or less equal basis. When enough of those leave it'll just become Truth Social or Parler. You might personally find that more fun and interesting, depending on your politic…

The audience for far left propagandists is much smaller than they’ve been telling you. They’ve been amplifying each other for years but as that infrastructure is taken away from them, they’ll head back to the margins where they belong. Like the far right trolls they aren’t too different from.

If you think the journalists suspended were all 'far left propagandists' there's not much more that can be said in this discussion. You're too far gone down your own rabbit hole.

I wish you luck finding your way back sometime.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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post #39

I'm exactly in the target demographic that desperately wants a a return to the old, decentralized, protocol-based internet. We need working alternatives to Twitter to prevent a single mentally unstable billionaire from having this kind of power. But everything about Mastodon seems badly designed and engineered. The focus on "servers" seems technologically anachronistic, but worse, fragments the community and creates…

You can export your data and move it to another server. If you're banned on Twitter, you're done. Also, complete failures like banning important stories, banning presidents, banning journalists etc. cannot happen on Mastodon the same way that it has happened countless of times on Twitter and will continue happening. Mastodon is obviously superior when it comes to the freedom of speech. Elon is afraid, because he know…

What if your server that is run by a hobbyist suddenly shuts down without any notice? If they had an accident for example or they got hacked or whatever

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can export your data and move it to another server. If you're banned on Twitter, you're done. Also, complete failures like banning important stories, banning presidents, banning journalists etc. cannot happen on Mastodon the same way that it has happened countless of times on Twitter and will continue happening. Mastodon is obviously superior when it comes to the freedom of speech. Elon is afraid, because he know…

Note: if the server you're on is banned, you won't be able to move to a different server.

I don't know if I understood you correctly, but I don't think this is true. I have not tried it but as long as you have your data you can always setup your own instance with it. Ideally you have a server backup but if not there is a script that can convert the ordinary Mastodon export (the one you can do as a regular user in the UI of any instance) into a form suitable to import into the database of your instance.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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The pivot from “I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law”[1] to “I get to use censorship to kneecap a competitor because it’s my site now” was almost comically quick. [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519036983137509376

Lol. Kneecapping competitors is what billionaires do. You dont win capitalism by following all the rules.
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