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Post by aclatuts »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #80

I'm thinking the next scientific instrument turned phone accessory is going to be raman spectroscopes. It could easily solve a lot of problems of things like adulterated food and drugs being so common. There's also research done that shows that many regular consumer phones on the market now have CCDs which are even sensitive enough as-is to read the laser reflection and sort out what the chemical is. There's an imple…

That video looks like sketchy vaporware. Who would need to analyze liquids carefully placed in a vial with their phone? Sometimes machines need to be big. Theranos setup themselves up for failure by trying to miniaturize and combine equipment that could never be miniaturized or interfered with each other.

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by masklinn »

mongol wrote: post #91
Fatnino wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So sell compatible size higher density batteries. Actual disposable batteries (remember those?) have improved dramatically over the decades but you can still put a brand new AA battery loaded with the latest 2022 tech into a remote control from the 50s and expect it to work.

Imagine a smartphone designed to use AAA batteries. That would be something. Would be cool to see.

> Would be cool to see.

Probably not the word I’d have used. You’d need what, 6 high-capacity AAAs to get standard battery size/life? Maybe 8? Possibly 10 with recent phones?

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by fijiaarone »

motohagiography wrote: post #64

The lack of a replacable battery is infuriating because it's planned obselescence of a FLIR device. I got one of the first CAT s60 phones when they came out and tolerated all the android spyware on it because I really liked having a properly ruggedized phone. Got about 4 years out of it. The flir camera I would say I used most often at night for finding my dogs poop to pick up on neighbours lawns in the dark, but I u…

It’s ok to have a camera that is not a telephone

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by bpye »

asddubs wrote: post #49
tildef wrote: post #11

I used the S62 as a daily driver for a couple of years and it was fairly decent. The convenience of having a thermal camera in your pocket at all times was remarkable, and it's one of those things you kind of miss when it's gone (my daily use for it was checking if the coffee was cool enough to drink--yes, I know my tasting organs provide much of the same functionality...) However, the resolution of the thermal camer…

the 9 FPS I believe are because US manufacturers aren't allowed to export thermal cameras above 9 FPS

Afaik higher FPS cameras can be sold to individuals but are ITAR controlled. I know at one point at least Seek had a higher rate version and anyone could buy it, but you had to provide documentation.

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Post by fijiaarone »

rippercushions wrote: post #76
randomdata wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seasons are a lousy way of describing times Given the context, 'spring' is just another way of saying second quarter. It has nothing to do with seasons beyond incidental alignment between calendar quarters and observed seasons in certain geographic areas where the use originated. Indeed, even second quarter breaks down where the Gregorian calendar isn't used, but you have to make assumptions at some point in order…

No, it really isn't, and it's mildly obnoxious to people living in the southern hemisphere (or the tropics, for that matter) when people assume spring = Q2. Mildly because we're used to it, but it's not hard to avoid. And for better or worse, the Gregorian calendar is the universal civil system now, even in the countries like Saudi Arabia that notionally use other calendars. Even Korean Juche years, Japanese imperial…

All the people who live in the southern hemisphere live in the tropics or subtropics.

Spring has no more meaning in Melbourne than it does in Mexico City.

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Post by gulperxcx »

teruakohatu wrote: post #2

These niche phones never fail to run old versions of Android. This phone runs Android 11, which was released October 4, 2021. Android 13 was released 15 August 2022.

You're getting Android 12 release date confused with 11. 11 was released in Sept 2020, your point still stands however.

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by yawniek »

mongol wrote: post #91
Fatnino wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So sell compatible size higher density batteries. Actual disposable batteries (remember those?) have improved dramatically over the decades but you can still put a brand new AA battery loaded with the latest 2022 tech into a remote control from the 50s and expect it to work.

Imagine a smartphone designed to use AAA batteries. That would be something. Would be cool to see.

I have one. But is a nokia from the 80ies

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by whacked_new »

anigbrowl wrote: post #30
whacked_new wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using a BlackView 9900 Pro for over a year, and attest to the surprising usefulness of the built-in thermal camera, such as checking how well food is heated after microwaving, or even watching the heat distribution of rolling, boiled water. My phone's battery is degraded now and I'm dreading a switch to something else. I've eyed the S62 but don't think it's an upgrade.

I'm confused, why not just replace the battery? They're available and if you're not good with fiddly disassembly jobs you can probably find someone to do it relatively cheaply.

completely fair, although the BV has a layer of anti-slip rubber on the back panel (which I also came to appreciate), so replacing the battery will probably require ripping that layer off (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikXifsPDT0 if curious)

that said, I've abused the phone enough that maybe I should find a replacement for the rubber too.

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by kvakvs »

coder543 wrote: post #90
motohagiography wrote: post #64

The lack of a replacable battery is infuriating because it's planned obselescence of a FLIR device. I got one of the first CAT s60 phones when they came out and tolerated all the android spyware on it because I really liked having a properly ruggedized phone. Got about 4 years out of it. The flir camera I would say I used most often at night for finding my dogs poop to pick up on neighbours lawns in the dark, but I u…

I don't understand why everyone is acting like replacement batteries are unavailable. Here's an amazon link to a variety of options: https://www.amazon.com/CAT-S60-Cell-Phone-Replacement-Batter...

The statement about battery not being replaceable is false. They are replaceable. But the phone body is sealed to deliver the water and dust resistance rating from its technical specs, so opening it is an entire new adventure in itself.
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