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Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#101

There was a drama with GNU Octave's hosting with Fosshost in late October that seems to have been a precipitant of all this: https://octave.discourse.group/t/fosshost-domains-down/3477?... As usual an inordinate amount of discussion appears to be in a Discord and is therefore unlinkable.

Oh you can definitely link to threads, messages or channels from Discord

But I shouldn’t be saying this because it goes against the Discord hate train

Forums are so amazing!!!!!!

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#102
If the approach of the other people at fosshost seems to be that the response to the ceo allegedly potentially embezzling funds/derelicting duty (just walking off with control of the bank account and going dark) is simple to shrug and start a new organization, why should we trust them to operate correctly? I'm not seeing details on what the lessons learned are. If you donated money to fosshost, amd you see the ceo walk away with the money while the rest of the team just decides to start with a new name, why would you then trust that new team with a donation? This whole situation is not confidence inducing.

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can anyone file a complaint for authorities to investigate? It sounds like embezzlement of organizational funds might be a possibility and it warrants whomever oversees non profits in the jurisdiction asking some questions.

It's just as likely they're having a mental health crisis of some sort (in my experience this is generally why people on the Internet go nonresponsive), I'd really encourage people not to call the cops on people in a situation they can't understand or get eyes on. It can make a bad situation much, much worse. It's even entirely possible for both things to be true, eg, for someone to have a medical crisis in their fam…

Healthcare in the UK is free.

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post #77

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Having a mental health crisis should not mean that you're free of consequences. It's not like random people are driving up to their house to harass them, they're reporting them to a regulatory body who will investigate themselves and prosecute if needed. And if they are having a mental health crisis, they should be able to plea insanity. All is this is compounded by the fact that, at least according to another commen…

> It's not like random people are driving up to their house to harass them When you direct law enforcement to investigate someone, you should anticipate this as a strong possibility. > And if they are having a mental health crisis, they should be able to plea insanity. I think the bar for this is much higher than having a mental health crisis, and that even if successful it won't result in you maintaining your libert…

The UK is very different to the US.

Reporting this incident to the charities regulator won't result in any police involvement unless said regulator find that serious fraud has been committed.

As it stands, the director should be struck off the register of directors and prohibited from directorship by companies house, for the protection of everyone else.

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#105

If the approach of the other people at fosshost seems to be that the response to the ceo allegedly potentially embezzling funds/derelicting duty (just walking off with control of the bank account and going dark) is simple to shrug and start a new organization, why should we trust them to operate correctly? I'm not seeing details on what the lessons learned are. If you donated money to fosshost, amd you see the ceo wa…

Yeah, I wouldn't trust any of these people as far as I could throw them.

I just don't think they are competent.

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#106
post #15

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He appears to be Head of Operations at a company called Ciptex, operating out of Manchester UK. His most recent LinkedIn activity is from 2 months ago. Perhaps try via their contact info?

Will not help, as they (our CEO) don't seem to want to answer to anything related to Fosshost. Also I cannot be bothered anymore.

Section 8.1 of the CIC incorporation.

Directors are responsible for the management of the Company's business, for which purpose they may exercise all the powers of the Company.

The drectors all have full authorisation under the Articles of Association. The bank will give them authority on the bank accounts should it be requested. The articles also make it fairly trivial to remove the problematic director and return to business as usual.

That these absolutely basic steps have NOT been taken - and directors have been resigning is a massive of a red flag to me.

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post #97

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Sure, but I don't think it's even that controversial or untested an idea. I think this is pretty common in startups, but they'd call it a "flat org-chart." It's generally seen as unacceptable to have the executive and treasurer be the same person, even in very vertical organizations. It's my observation that, if you leave people to their own devices to perform a task with a narrow scope, they pretty much form a horiz…

Are you sure? Consider what happens when a CEO is suddenly unable to function. What happens to company property, intellectual property, notes, etc. that are in their possession? Do they magically vanish? Or do you try to recover them? Maybe the CEO's corporate laptop will show up on ebay with files intact. Is that an optimal outcome? What if the person lives alone? At what point is law enforcement a.k.a. "the gubment…

I don't really understand where this comment is coming from, I think you've maybe misinterpreted me; I'm not trying to say there is never an appropriate role for government, I'm saying not to call the cops on Internet strangers, and that accountability you proactively build into the structure of your organization is going to work much better than going through the legal system. But sure, it's okay for law enforcement to let you into the empty house of the late CEO, and if a stolen laptop shows up on eBay, it should be returned to you if possible. (But it's going to go a lot smoother for you if you use full disk encryption so that the stolen laptop can't be used to steal your files, and if you've backed them up to a company drive so you never lose access - you're not going to want to rely on law enforcement to give you these guarantees post hoc, and they're not going to be able to deliver on that most of the time.)

Do we actually disagree? The way you kinda derisively said "the gubment", and how previously you said I had "nice sentiments", makes me think maybe you don't like how I've expressed myself or that I'm reminding you of other ideas you don't like?

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not like random people are driving up to their house to harass them When you direct law enforcement to investigate someone, you should anticipate this as a strong possibility. > And if they are having a mental health crisis, they should be able to plea insanity. I think the bar for this is much higher than having a mental health crisis, and that even if successful it won't result in you maintaining your libert…

The UK is very different to the US. Reporting this incident to the charities regulator won't result in any police involvement unless said regulator find that serious fraud has been committed. As it stands, the director should be struck off the register of directors and prohibited from directorship by companies house, for the protection of everyone else.

Thank you for this context, that is interesting.
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