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Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#51

This is exactly no-name "FOSS" non-profits are a bad choice for community organizing. There's really no reason not to host on industry-standard free hosting, ie Github or Gitlab.

There is every reason to rent dedicated server / VM and self-host with something like Gitea to prevent big corps from any potential messing with one's account that can happen and is happening for various reasons. Moral / ethic standards might also play a role.

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#52
post #33

This is exactly no-name "FOSS" non-profits are a bad choice for community organizing. There's really no reason not to host on industry-standard free hosting, ie Github or Gitlab.

> There's really no reason not to host on industry-standard free hosting, ie Github GitHub will autoban accounts that post certain content. For example, I had an account for three years, with hundreds of stars across different repos. I pushed an M3U8 file containing content that GitHub didn't like for some reason, boom, account dead. No warning, not even an email with explanation. Every single issue or comment that I…

My account was banned for no explicable reason one day (I have nothing remotely controvercial). They reinstated it after I contacted support they never answered my question "why?", because of course they don't even know why. Some ai black box did it and luckily a human was able to undo it. And even if they did kn9w why, they would probably still not say, under the guise of "we don't want to tell the hackers how to get around it"

Welcome to late early stage advent of the internet.

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#53

This is exactly no-name "FOSS" non-profits are a bad choice for community organizing. There's really no reason not to host on industry-standard free hosting, ie Github or Gitlab.

GitLab Community Relations team member here.

Those impacted are welcome to apply to the GitLab for Open Source program: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/join/

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#54
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They pulled out of that pretty rapidly when they realised just what a disaster Andrew Lee was going to be. Took them a few days to realise their mistake though, so they still got to eat a bunch of reputational fallout anyway. (source: told them it was a terrible idea beforehand, got contacted back extremely sheepishly when they realised I'd been right)

Mostly all of the volunteers did not support going into partnership with freenode. Thomas was one of the only ones who wanted it (and he only did it when mostly all of the tech team threatned to quit) (source: I am a former volunteer at fosshost)

Who gave money to the directors running Fosshost?

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#55
There was a drama with GNU Octave's hosting with Fosshost in late October that seems to have been a precipitant of all this: https://octave.discourse.group/t/fosshost-domains-down/3477?...

As usual an inordinate amount of discussion appears to be in a Discord and is therefore unlinkable.

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#56
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They pulled out of that pretty rapidly when they realised just what a disaster Andrew Lee was going to be. Took them a few days to realise their mistake though, so they still got to eat a bunch of reputational fallout anyway. (source: told them it was a terrible idea beforehand, got contacted back extremely sheepishly when they realised I'd been right)

Mostly all of the volunteers did not support going into partnership with freenode. Thomas was one of the only ones who wanted it (and he only did it when mostly all of the tech team threatned to quit) (source: I am a former volunteer at fosshost)

No implication that there wasn't also pushback internally was intended, my apologies for the fact that now I look at it again, my comment can clearly be read that way.

I kept to a generic 'they' because the communications in question were private so while I'm comfortable revealing they existed I felt keeping the description deliberately vague was only fair.

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#57
post #22
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Thomas our CEO is unreacheable. He only has access to bank and thus to funds. Does your nonprofit have a treasurer? I thought it was a legal requirement for the treasurer to be a different person from the CEO. In that case the treasurer should be able to present something on official letterhead and gain access to the account.

[former fosshost member] We did not (as far as I'm aware) have a treasurer, but did have a volunteer as the CFO. After appointing them, the CEO never fully gave them access to finances and after many requests, eventually just started taking away financial access from everyone else too.

There should be a legal way for them to gain access to the funds without the cooperation of the CEO. A CIC has specific rules for usage of funds which can be enforced especially if the CEO isn't applying them as they are required to.

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#58

There's a serious lack of useful information here. "Due to circumstances outside of the control of the Fosshost volunteers, we are now in a situation where we cannot guarantee our servers will stay online, and in fact expect them to go offline shortly." and in the link: "I'm expecting the BOS datacenter to go offline in the very near future." And in their Twitter profile, they seem to be a non-profit. I presume then…

The projects list as of February in their GitHub repo, which includes GNOME and Debian: https://github.com/fosshostorg/fosshost.org/blob/main/src/da...

Considering gnome.org's IP is owned by RedHat, I find that quite unlikely to be accurate.

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#59

This is exactly no-name "FOSS" non-profits are a bad choice for community organizing. There's really no reason not to host on industry-standard free hosting, ie Github or Gitlab.

As an outsider, using FOSS in general for anything important seems like a bad choice unless there is a giant tech firm behind it like React with Meta. It is generally so fragile as it depends on so few people.

How do you reconcile that with the fact that those company-backed projects you listed are themselves built on top of FOSS libraries?

Re: Fosshost Is Shutting Down

#60
Ok, I tried doing this but now its blocking me from posting further. I think since it needs to keep context, jumping back and forth with ls, cd is causing issues.

For my iteration there were 4 videos in the Documents folder, would have been cool to see what they videos were...

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