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Post by UncleOxidant »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #62
jstummbillig wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In the real world, sure. Can you point at one? A council with "widely diverse viewpoints" that is actually an effective, tie-braking decision maker?

Supreme Court justices, despite their huge partisan differences and passionate disagreements on many individual cases, often talk about how they personally enjoy working with each other. My impression is that this is true of many Congressional committees as well, although it's less legible there because most congressmembers find it politically advantageous to talk about how mad they are at the other party.

There's a huge amount of history there, though. It didn't just get formed this week. It's got some members who have been on the court since the early 90s. Some since the late 90s and others in the aughts. The SCOTUS has long-lived institutional memory and norms of behavior. It's members also tend to become somewhat isolated from what's going on in the culture outside.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by uniqueuid »

unknownaccount wrote: post #75
tibbydudeza wrote: post #58

"In Europe, the bird will fly by our rules."

Let’s see how popular that policy is once they make the site completely unavailable in Europe.

Given that approximately 5% of Germans use Twitter, I don't think many people would care or even notice.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by listenallyall »

lukeschlather wrote: post #29
listenallyall wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised because I thought there was a passionate but healthy debate about the matter, unlike what you'd see on Twitter or Reddit. A lot of opinions were expressed but I didn't see anybody calling out names, using epithets, shutting people down, etc. HN's treatment of controversial topics generally is more respectful than elsewhere, which is why it is disappointing to see them shut down or buried here, when much…

Shutting down discussions when they start to get disrespectful is what ensures that you only see respectful discussions here.

Fair enough, good point.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by PuppyTailWags »

unknownaccount wrote: post #79
TulliusCicero wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in the US, there's a lot of noxious speech that's legal. The US has very permissive free speech laws overall.

And conversely the US is one of the most restrictive nations on earth when it comes to speech that supposedly infringes Copyrights or can be interpreted as defamation/slander. The premise that US has anything resembling freedom of speech is completely untrue.

Wait, doesn't the US generally have really high standards for what can meet defamation/slander? Esp. compared with other western countries?

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Post by HelloMcFly »

mjr00 wrote: post #55
addingadimensio wrote: post #20

It would be amazing if a council with diverse viewpoints could even sit together without killing each other in this day and age. Does this exist anywhere?

Yes, this is how social interaction in the real world, or even smaller online communities, has worked for ages. It's only on pseudonymous mega-sites like Twitter, Reddit and HN where jumping down people's throats for having an opposing viewpoint is even a thing.

Boy oh boy, I should take you to some Board of Education meetings.

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Post by delecti »

mellosouls wrote: post #33
deanCommie wrote: post #18

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So anyone that is celebrating this Musk announcement is telling on themselves This is exactly the sort of tone that improving balance is intended to counter.

If you take a quick scroll through the quote-retweets of Musk's "the bird is freed" tweet [1], there are a lot of slurs and bigotry. Musk might or might not be bigoted himself, but lots of bigots seem awfully happy at the prospect of him in charge.

[1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585841080431321088

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by norwalkbear »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #92
PaulsWallet wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Internet would have us believe that civil war is imminent. The person who could arguably be considered the third most powerful politician in the US just had their own broken into and their spouse assaulted in a suspected act of domestic terrorism. I wouldn't say "imminent" but if you don't think the possibility is at least somewhere on the table I would consider that being naive.

And you've got MAGA "prophets" out there "prophesying" about the "Angel of Death" visiting their political opponents before the end of 2022.

Wtf, pls go on
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