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Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by bombcar »

stinos wrote: post #86
duxup wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue that is exactly what they are doing. Their promotional material and many users are already using iPads as desktops... and they seem to be catering to them.

Could be, but at what point will they stop, i.e. how long before the iPad becomes the Macbook Air? In any case: if they don't stop then I'd think one of those would have to go, makes little sense keeping 2 product lines which are like almost the same?

When the iPad Pro is as expensive or more than the Air, and they feel they have the software down pat.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by williamcotton »

Veliladon wrote: post #6

Still can't believe the M2 chip is hobbled with Stage Manager. Dear Apple, I want my iPad to become a Finder based full-fat macOS when it's on the Magic Keyboard and I want it to be Springboard when I take it off the Magic Keyboard. Make it happen already.

It feels so close, doesn’t it? My biggest gripe is that iOS doesn’t have proper support for external displays.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by dagmx »

crazygringo wrote: post #82
dagmx wrote: post #65

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ProCreate and illustrator aren’t comparable. The former is raster while the latter is a vector app. I think you meant to or should compare it to Photoshop

Not even Photoshop -- Photoshop is mainly about editing, well, photos, while ProCreate is about natural-looking brush painting. Photoshop certainly has brushes, but it's not even attempting any kind of naturalism. People don't generally "paint" in Photoshop. [Edit: from comments below, I stand corrected. Guess it's just the people I know.] I'm not sure what you call that category of app -- painting apps? Natural-medi…

Photoshop is one of the primary painting apps in the professional industry.

From illustrators to matte painters, photoshop is probably the most common painting app you’ll find.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by crazygringo »

theNJR wrote: post #50
uses wrote: post #33

Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can't figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It's so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it's coming from above or below my face…

This was the first thing I looked for. iPad is unusable for video calls.

To say it's "unusable" is ridiculous.

It works perfectly fine. Only main difference is that, in landscape mode, instead of people seeing you look slightly down instead of into the camera (like laptops), people see you look slightly left instead of into the camera.

99% of people seeing your image in the call won't notice or care. Especially when things like your lighting setup make most of the difference that people do notice, which has nothing to do with the camera you're using.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by reustle »

Has there been any recent discussions as to why Apple still hasn't introduced cellular connectivity on their laptops? Is it yet another attempt to get people to convert over to the walled garden of iOS? With every ipadOS iteration, they push it to be closer and closer to a desktop experience (windows, monitor support, keyboard trackpad cover, etc).

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by jessriedel »

null_object wrote: post #62

Pretty much everyone here knocking the iPad Pros for being consumption-only passive entertainment devices. But I guess the artists, musicians, video-editors and photographers using them professionally would disagree, if they ever came here.

I use it everyday for handwritten math. Unfortunately, the software is meager compared to the hardware.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by selykg »

jessriedel wrote: post #56
smoldesu wrote: post #35

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Yeah, I don't really know who Apple is hoping to sell these to. My ex-boyfriend bought one of the earlier iPad Pros with some grand ambitions, but he mostly ended up using it for Netflix, Twitter and emails. I think that totally legitimizes the existence of the smaller/cheaper models, but who is Apple selling these to in the long-term? Even the mediocre Surface Pro has a decent software experience that explains why s…

The extra 2 inches of screen can be a reason to get a Pro, but I agree it's unclear why they both to put in so much horsepower.

as an avid comic book reader, the 12.9" iPad Pro is _perfect_ for reading comics, you don't have to zoom in or out at all and you can simply read. The 11" model might be fine too but I've only ever used the 12.9" model. It's slightly oversized, like the treatment some of the deluxe hardcover graphic novels get, and it's absolutely glorious to be able to read without zooming in.

I'd love to get a newer iPad, but the price is bananas for me given the use case. I bought the pre-2018 model and it's still holding on but I'm going to be bummed when this one reaches the end of it's usable life due to software updates and such because I can't afford (or, justify maybe) one of the newer models.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by smoldesu »

Auracle wrote: post #88
null_object wrote: post #53

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> I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. I think HN forgets the 'pros' using the iPad Pros are video, photography, visual-arts and music professionals. I'm as disappointed as the next dev on HN that iPadOS still doesn't allow me to run a full version of Xcode. But then I remember there are perfectly good laptops for that, and I'm not the target audience for these devices

I mean, I don’t understand how I could really use an iPad in my workflow as a photographer. Everything is slower without a keyboard, and for raw editing I use a whole bunch of knobs. I could see maybe using it at the right type of session to quickly review images on a larger screen, but the last time I looked into it there wasn’t a super great way of doing that. Maybe I could cull photos on my iPad but unless I trans…

Same goes for music production. I've tried using a few iPad DAWs over the years, but it's so much slower than using a keyboard and mouse, or just popping open your Macbook with Live. Apple already has a product segment that does fairly well with this market, trying to force the iPad into being something it's not just looks silly.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by bombcar »

jessriedel wrote: post #89
drewg123 wrote: post #16

As far as I know, this is the first Apple hardware to support Wifi 6E, which is something I've been waiting on for what feels like forever. I'm hoping the rumored new laptops will also support 6E. For those that don't know, Wifi-6E uses the 6Ghz band, and I anticipate it will be very helpful in crowded residential environments where lots of Wifi APs are all landing on the same few 2.4 and 5Ghz channels.

I can't understand the emphasis on more bandwidth. The pain with wifi is overwhelmingly dominated by the slowness establishing a connection (why does it take more than a second?!), with connection reliability and latency (for video calls) also being important. "Wifi 7: 10 Terrabyte/sec transfer speeds" *yawn* "Wifi 7: Connects in 500 ms, latency 20 ms, tri-band fallover for 5-nines reliability" *Opens checkbook*

All I want is wireless devices that can be connected to my 2.4GHz and 5Gz network at the same time with the same IP.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by etchalon »

williamcotton wrote: post #102
Veliladon wrote: post #6

Still can't believe the M2 chip is hobbled with Stage Manager. Dear Apple, I want my iPad to become a Finder based full-fat macOS when it's on the Magic Keyboard and I want it to be Springboard when I take it off the Magic Keyboard. Make it happen already.

It feels so close, doesn’t it? My biggest gripe is that iOS doesn’t have proper support for external displays.

iOS 16 fixes that.
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