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Re: iPad Pro M2

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I would almost want to create a new thread for this, but what is the use case of a tablet? Is this for fulltime physical meeting goers to stylishly take notes? Is there some benefit to using this over a laptop?

For me it’s the form factor.

It’s the perfect thing to take travelling. And on the work side, the pen is astonishingly good as is the app ecosystem.

It also functions as a second screen for a macbook.

Is it necessary? No. Have I spent money in worse? Absolutely.

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#82
post #65

One current day iPad killer app IMO is Procreate. It's basically a more intuitive version of Adobe Illustrator completely optimized for iPad + iPen. I bought my then girlfriend (now wife :D) an iPad for her bday in 2020 accepting the risk that we're spending a lot of money on an activity she might not stick with (digital illustration). Happy to report that I was totally wrong and we have def gotten our money's worth…

ProCreate and illustrator aren’t comparable. The former is raster while the latter is a vector app. I think you meant to or should compare it to Photoshop

Not even Photoshop -- Photoshop is mainly about editing, well, photos, while ProCreate is about natural-looking brush painting. Photoshop certainly has brushes, but it's not even attempting any kind of naturalism. People don't generally "paint" in Photoshop. [Edit: from comments below, I stand corrected. Guess it's just the people I know.]

I'm not sure what you call that category of app -- painting apps? Natural-media painting apps? (Although you can choose to make them quite unnatural-looking too if you want.) Fractal Design Painter (later Corel Painter) invented the category I believe, way back in 1991.

Re: iPad Pro M2

#83
post #33

Pretty surprised they left the front camera on the side of the device. I can't figure out why they would think that makes sense after using it even once. It's so awkward trying to do a meeting and I have this weird camera angle coming from the corner of my face. The alternative is portrait orientation, which puts the camera really far from the center of the screen - feels like it's coming from above or below my face…

This would be solved if Continuity Camera let your iPad use your iPhone camera. Doesn't seem like it does, though.

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#84
post #24

They keep on pushing on the power of the iPads. Out of curiosity, does anyone really use their iPads for something they’d consider really compute intensive? I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. Any time I want to do anything complex or computationally intensive I find a laptop to be much more efficient, both in terms of the OS flexibility and better input devices.

> I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. I think HN forgets the 'pros' using the iPad Pros are video, photography, visual-arts and music professionals. I'm as disappointed as the next dev on HN that iPadOS still doesn't allow me to run a full version of Xcode. But then I remember there are perfectly good laptops for that, and I'm not the target audience for these devices

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Re: iPad Pro M2

#85

I wonder why developer tools are not a priority for Apple for “pro” iPads. At this point, it uses the M2 chip so the limitations on running IDEs, compilers and other tools just seem arbitrarily imposed.

I would assume this would cannibalise mac sales, very doubtful we will ever see compilers on ipad os

If I get a 1TB iPad Pro (16GB of ram) with pencil and keyboard it's $2200.

Without the pencil it's $2148.

If I get a 1TB 13 Inch M2 Macbook (16GB ram) it's 1899.

I have been avoiding getting an iPad because it can't run xCode, and it's cheaper for me to get the laptop.

Sure, some people are buying both, but I'm sure there are many like me that aren't because of this exact trade off.

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#86
post #52
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they can't push it too far because then it would become something too close to an actual laptop/tablet hybrid.

I'd argue that is exactly what they are doing. Their promotional material and many users are already using iPads as desktops... and they seem to be catering to them.

Could be, but at what point will they stop, i.e. how long before the iPad becomes the Macbook Air? In any case: if they don't stop then I'd think one of those would have to go, makes little sense keeping 2 product lines which are like almost the same?

Re: iPad Pro M2

#87
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ProCreate and illustrator aren’t comparable. The former is raster while the latter is a vector app. I think you meant to or should compare it to Photoshop

Not even Photoshop -- Photoshop is mainly about editing, well, photos, while ProCreate is about natural-looking brush painting. Photoshop certainly has brushes, but it's not even attempting any kind of naturalism. People don't generally "paint" in Photoshop. [Edit: from comments below, I stand corrected. Guess it's just the people I know.] I'm not sure what you call that category of app -- painting apps? Natural-medi…

I paint in Photoshop...

Re: iPad Pro M2

#88
post #24

They keep on pushing on the power of the iPads. Out of curiosity, does anyone really use their iPads for something they’d consider really compute intensive? I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. Any time I want to do anything complex or computationally intensive I find a laptop to be much more efficient, both in terms of the OS flexibility and better input devices.

> I find that the best use of a tablet is reading and watching videos. I think HN forgets the 'pros' using the iPad Pros are video, photography, visual-arts and music professionals. I'm as disappointed as the next dev on HN that iPadOS still doesn't allow me to run a full version of Xcode. But then I remember there are perfectly good laptops for that, and I'm not the target audience for these devices

I mean, I don’t understand how I could really use an iPad in my workflow as a photographer. Everything is slower without a keyboard, and for raw editing I use a whole bunch of knobs.

I could see maybe using it at the right type of session to quickly review images on a larger screen, but the last time I looked into it there wasn’t a super great way of doing that. Maybe I could cull photos on my iPad but unless I transfer for the photos to it and then back off I’d need to work over my network and that’d probably be slow…

Everything relating to moving files, SD cards, etc. is just a hassle in Apple tablet/phone world. Ironically, a PC just works.

Re: iPad Pro M2

#89

As far as I know, this is the first Apple hardware to support Wifi 6E, which is something I've been waiting on for what feels like forever. I'm hoping the rumored new laptops will also support 6E. For those that don't know, Wifi-6E uses the 6Ghz band, and I anticipate it will be very helpful in crowded residential environments where lots of Wifi APs are all landing on the same few 2.4 and 5Ghz channels.

I can't understand the emphasis on more bandwidth. The pain with wifi is overwhelmingly dominated by the slowness establishing a connection (why does it take more than a second?!), with connection reliability and latency (for video calls) also being important.

"Wifi 7: 10 Terrabyte/sec transfer speeds" *yawn*

"Wifi 7: Connects in 500 ms, latency 20 ms, tri-band fallover for 5-nines reliability" *Opens checkbook*

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