"a member of HAPA, the Half-Asian People's Association"
I was under the impression that Hapa was a Hawaiian word for "a person of mixed race." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapa
When did the Asians at Harvard decide to steal that one?
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#102I was 13, I think, when I went to compete in the all-Ukrainian math olympiad, back a bunch of years ago when it was called a "republican" olympiad because Ukraine was a republic in the USSR and not a separate country. It was a long event: delegations from all the regions came and were housed in a sort of summer camp for two weeks. As we were getting registered, one of the organizers who was getting everyone's details…
She gave you very valuable advise.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really don't like what you are insinuating. You appear to be implying that some people are inferior due to the ancestry of their parents Is this just willful blindness? Do you really believe all ethnicity are perfectly matched in their potential? It's hard to study academia because we don't understand the brain well enough, but do a little reading about ethnicity and genetics as it relates to sports.
"In the mosaic of America, three groups that have been unusually successful are Asian-Americans, Jews and West Indian blacks — and in that there may be some lessons for the rest of us." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/07/opinion/07kristof.html?_r=... "Do African immigrants make the smartest Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to b…
I don't mean to make any particular assertions about one ethnicity or another. My point is simply that, given the (genetically driven) physical variance between ethnicities, I expect there is a reasonable chance of (genetically driven) mental variance as well. In what way? I have no idea, and no opinion.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
This guy "won him the title of president of the Black Student Union, despite not being, well, black" [1] [1] http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/bill-nguyen-startups
Thanks. So Bill Nguyen proved that it's possible to self-identify yourself under different race. University Admission Committee may not mind such "self race re-branding" practice too, because university ratios of admitted minorities would be improving as well.
The article talking about high school, not college.
Anyway I find, that Americans a little bit confused about things like race, ethnicity and nationality.
Asking to fill nationality in official documents is legitimate. Asking for ethnicity is borderline. Asking to fill a race is barbaric.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is simply wrong. US Population: White - 72.4 % Black or African American - 12.6 Asian - 4.8 Some other race - 6.2 Source: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf Princeton class profile: African America - 7.4 Asian - 18.6 Hispanic - 7.1 etc. Source: http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/admi... Asians are "overrepresented minorities", or ORM's, by admission standards because, i…
I understand they're overrepresented. What I meant was why is that a problem? According to the article, that degree of over-representation (relative to population) is below what it would be, given a completely blind admissions process. So why not have 25% asian population? What's the problem? On the other hand, why isn't anyone saying there is a problem with ORM in football?
What role does object relational mapping have in football?
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#106Full disclaimer: I'm a sophomore at Yale, my adviser last year was an admissions officer, and a friend of mine works in the admissions office. I'm also friends with the girl photographed, but that's irrelevant :) This is roughly how admissions works at Yale: 1. An officer reviews your application for 20-25 minutes. 1a. Some kids are clear rejects. 1500/2400 SAT and a 2.7 GPA, with no activities usually does the trick…
This is pretty close to how we did things at Princeton. You can only admit so many violin playing science hopefuls.
If I found you a dozen extra violin-playing science hopefuls with high scores and GPAs who were black you and I both know exactly what would happen. The "meh, they don't have a hook" functions as a post-hoc neutral justification of a policy whose stated goal and naked application is to discriminate on the basis of race. It's as transparent a fig-leaf as "We can't admit blacks, they might only speak Ebonics, yo!" would be if you were staring at a transcript which showed multiple awards for competitive forensics, a 4.0 GPA, and a role as Iago that got written up in the NYT. It is also, verbatim, the justification of ethnicity-conscious "holistic" admissions processes which were adopted at Harvard in the 1930s with the explicit, documented aim of keeping "the Jewish problem" to a manageable level.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks. So Bill Nguyen proved that it's possible to self-identify yourself under different race. University Admission Committee may not mind such "self race re-branding" practice too, because university ratios of admitted minorities would be improving as well.
The article talking about high school, not college. Anyway I find, that Americans a little bit confused about things like race, ethnicity and nationality. Asking to fill nationality in official documents is legitimate. Asking for ethnicity is borderline. Asking to fill a race is barbaric.
I guess universities are barbaric then.
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Last I knew (= 1990s), Harvard had about 1/3 legacy admits. That number seems incredibly high now, does anyone know a modern number? FWIW, The rationale back then: Large donors run in families, it was deemed essential to keep the universities funded.
Considering the drops we have been seeing in public funding, at least for public universities keeping funded is perhaps going to become an ever more crucial goal...
Harvard's endowment is $32 billion, equal to the annual budget for the US department of education. I don't think they need to worry.
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#109My friend (Asian wife) hopes that his son might get into MIT. His son is not a superstar but has done quite well in math competitions. His son was a pretty good baseball player until they had to decide between Math competitions and sports. I always tell him that his son has to become more interesting - less one-dimension Math/Science stud - like Cal Newport talks about on his blog. And that some schools for MIT could be looking for a few good baseball players.
The interesting thing is that the cutthroat high school his son is enrolled at - the AP weed-out courses, the hardest ones are the humanities. Courses like Modern European History.
> For these students, extracurricular activities play a different role than for their peers. They don’t use activities to signal their qualities, they use them instead to transform themselves into more interesting people. In other words, what’s important about an activity is not its impressiveness, but its impact on your personality.
http://calnewport.com/blog/2010/02/18/want-to-get-into-harva...
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#110"Race/ethnicity unknown" is the fastest-growing category reported for enrolled students in United States colleges and universities, with more than 1 million students so reported to the federal government in the most recent year. http://www.acenet.edu/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Programs_and_S... The federal regulations on the subject http://www.ed.gov/legislation/FedRegister/other/2007-4/10190... require all colleges to…
> She used to tell our class about how she had to modify her car (by removing the dome light and adding a locking gas cap) so that Klan snipers couldn't shoot her as she opened her car door at night or put foreign substances into her gas tank.
I doubt there are many young people today who have that kind of dedication. I wish I did.