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Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by code51 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #33
sct202 wrote: post #20

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Human in the loop could redirect payments to their parent without a lifetime ban. Children do unwise things all the time. Google's growth rates are starting to plateau, and they might want to revisit the legion of people they've robobanned from spending on their platforms.

It may not be possible for Google to do that redirect without incurring legal liability. Fraud occurred here. Google just shuffling the shells might be aiding and abetting fraud. (The law here isn't set up just to protect Google; nor is it set up to just protect the kid. It ties into broader societal protections against child exploitation and child labor. So Google runs the risk of tripping over criminal liability, i…

a) Unpaid balance could just be refunded to advertisers.

b) Worries about child labor: already happened. Google profited from his activity already. It's just the kid not receiving anything.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by labster »

pb7 wrote: post #94
LegitShady wrote: post #69

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dystopia does not require the government - in fact some popular fictional dystopias are when corporations can control/etc without the government intervening. So maybe just don't word police other people because you don't like their words.

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The word dystopia comes from analysis of fiction.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by djhworld »

My friend ran into this recently, he signed up to Paypal in like 2003, probably to sell games or something on eBay for a bit of cash.

He's in his mid thirties now, and Paypal banned his account without warning, when he phoned them up they said it was because he was under 18 when he signed up.....19 years ago.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by jotm »

lovingCranberry wrote: post #76
ars wrote: post #49

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The escape hatch is the parent opening the account in their own name. Companies don't have a choice here: Someone under 18 can not enter into a contract, there's nothing really they can do.

Hmm, in Germany children and teens can still enter contracts, as long as they are able to pay it with their monthly pocket money. Every single thing you buy here in a supermarket is also an implicit contract (Kaufvertrag). So, you could theoretically rent servers and buy ad space on Adsense as long your pocket money covers it. On the other hand: this is a liability for Google and $provider -- as most of them are post…

Postpaid was my favorite when I was a poor 16 year old.

I couldn't believe you can rent 12 core servers for 3 months and not pay for it!

Yes, I know it was illegal lol

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by LegitShady »

pb7 wrote: post #94
LegitShady wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dystopia does not require the government - in fact some popular fictional dystopias are when corporations can control/etc without the government intervening. So maybe just don't word police other people because you don't like their words.

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its not an argument, its about the definition of the word, and how you were word policing based on your opinion that doesn't actually reflect the way the word is used.

It wouldn't be an issue if you just had given your opinion instead of demanding he stop using words, which was the primary reason for my reply, because you demanding other people stop using words is insufferably arrogant.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by pb7 »

labster wrote: post #102
pb7 wrote: post #94

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The word dystopia comes from analysis of fiction.

The definition is "imagined state or society great suffering or injustice" -- Google cannot cause you great suffering or injustice because it has little to no power over you. Only a government or similar can truly cause great suffering en masse.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by wnoise »

pb7 wrote: post #98
ceejayoz wrote: post #89

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A lot of dystopian scifi involves corporations; Robocop, Weyland-Yutani Corp from Aliens, etc. Google's got more power than substantial numbers of governments.

And yet Google can't come knock on your door and take you away. Calling it dystopian can only come from an incredibly sheltered individual who has never faced any real danger.

Not all dystopias are of the "direct violence" type.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by ajross »

romwell wrote: post #52
kweingar wrote: post #23

I've been banned-for-life from a handful of services after I lied about my age as a kid. I can see both (all?) sides of this: - As a society we ought to be forgiving of harmless youthful indiscretions - As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you - There is a big can of worms when it comes to doing business with minors on the internet. I don't think there's a solution a…

I think the solution is "the right to fucking delete your account forver". Google keeping "limbo" accounts is dystopian, and seems like a GDPR violation to me.

How would deleting the account in question help anyone, though? Or are you saying that after deleting, they would then be allowed to re-register after a ban? Isn't that just isomorphic to demanding Free Ban Evasion for All?

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Post by ceejayoz »

pb7 wrote: post #98
ceejayoz wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of dystopian scifi involves corporations; Robocop, Weyland-Yutani Corp from Aliens, etc. Google's got more power than substantial numbers of governments.

And yet Google can't come knock on your door and take you away. Calling it dystopian can only come from an incredibly sheltered individual who has never faced any real danger.

> And yet Google can't come knock on your door and take you away.

Not directly... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/googles-scans-private-...

Plenty of dystopian fiction involves corporations legally not allowed to do something and still doing it, because they're functionally immune to consequences. There are also degrees of dystopian between "murder corp" and Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

You might have an overly narrow definition of "dystopian".

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