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Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Its based on a comment he made on his appearance on the Joe Rogan experience(JRE #1863) a few days ago. Only extracts are on youtube as he moved to spotify. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3PIGLDscQ https://open.spotify.com/episode/51gxrAActH18RGhKNza598 Also, i have to say its quite amazing to see Mark Zuckerberg on the JRE. Wouldnt have thought that would ever happen.

After watching Lex Fridman’s interview with Zuckerberg, I kind of like him. I don’t care what the world thinks of him, from what I saw, he seems like a genuine and nice person. I like him. And it makes me question the demonization of him.

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I wonder how often they block stories that aren't fabricated... Joe started asking the question but then moved on to something else and Zuck never answered. There's clearly more censorship then I thought.

I'd also be interested in the stories that Facebook did end up letting through that same week. It would probably not support Zucks explanation.

Also, Zuck said that a significant portion of them were deranked... it could be 99% of them for all I know.

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You can be the nicest person and still leave behind an awful world. Really hard to argue that Zuck and his companies have had a net positive impact on the world.

It's all about perspective. I think, unpopularly but based on objectivity and rationality, that oil companies are great and have done a world a lot of good – literally everything we do today from modern medicine to farming depends on fossil fuels, it has sustained 8 billion people on this planet and saved countless lives. Without it, we would see horror of death like you've never witnessed, millions of people would d…

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After watching Lex Fridman’s interview with Zuckerberg, I kind of like him. I don’t care what the world thinks of him, from what I saw, he seems like a genuine and nice person. I like him. And it makes me question the demonization of him.

You can be the nicest person and still leave behind an awful world. Really hard to argue that Zuck and his companies have had a net positive impact on the world.

There is no net positive impact from social networking services, or indeed any other medium powered by advertising where the operators thereof have realized that hatred can be monetized. People have always disagreed with one another and clashed over political views... but only in the last 15 years have people been so polarized, and I think we can directly attribute it to conditioning as a direct result of participation on networks that incentivize people to consume hatred for clicks.

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How old was he then? Perhaps you were more mature at 19 than he was.

Probably? Considering what he said, it doesn't exactly seem like a high bar to beat.

I know I will find plenty of stuff like Zuckerberg’s dumb fucks comment in my AIM chat logs from when I was 19. I remember cringing at it within a few years.

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

#106

Its based on a comment he made on his appearance on the Joe Rogan experience(JRE #1863) a few days ago. Only extracts are on youtube as he moved to spotify. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3PIGLDscQ https://open.spotify.com/episode/51gxrAActH18RGhKNza598 Also, i have to say its quite amazing to see Mark Zuckerberg on the JRE. Wouldnt have thought that would ever happen.

After watching Lex Fridman’s interview with Zuckerberg, I kind of like him. I don’t care what the world thinks of him, from what I saw, he seems like a genuine and nice person. I like him. And it makes me question the demonization of him.

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From the article: Zuckerberg told Rogan: "The background here is that the FBI came to us - some folks on our team - and was like 'hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that'." He said the FBI did not warn Facebook about the Biden story in part…

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Prove to me the laptop is real.

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> After the election story turns out to be 100% true Not entirely. The laptop was real, yes, but at the time Trumpists were claiming it had everything from evidence of Biden's conspiracy to steal the election to his child porn stash. This wasn't a story about Presidential Candidate Joe Biden, it was a story about his son that the Trumpists hoped would destroy his candidacy somehow. Given how much deliberate disinform…

> The laptop was real, yes, Weren't only some emails authenticated? The details on how the Washington Post authenticated them weren't enough to make me trust that they knew what they're doing. Email is famously unencrypted in a lot of its transit; could it have been sniffed? Could Biden have been the victim of spyware that captured the emails? It may very well be real, but the story about how it got to the press is b…

I thought the FBI had the laptop. How are all these other people claiming to have copies of the hard drive?

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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I’m kind of shocked this isn’t a bigger story. - Right before a presidential election a major story breaks about a Presidential candidate - FBI jumps in to say “it’s Russian disinformation” - Story suppressed across the media including online as “disinformation” - After the election story turns out to be 100% true

If that isn't what happened, the response isn't convincing anyone, and clearly isn't meant to. This tactic concerns me more than any figurehead.

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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post #44

So Facebook didn't censor anything? He didn't admit censoring and the story wasn't censored. Nobody had their posts about it taken down and nobody was prevented from discussing it. Facebook just didn't disseminate the story, they prevented their feeds from selecting it and showing it. Isn't that what everyone wants? Except that they do that with all stories and have no algorithms at all? It's not censorship though so…

nobody was prevented from discussing it. Facebook just didn't disseminate the story

Facebook didn't disseminate it so you never got the chance to start discussing it.

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