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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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This is very sad to see, and makes me really worry about the people who got their names handed to the police. The current jingoistic BJP regime is doing all sorts of authoratarian things in India, like demolishing housing for merely taking part in protests [0]. They have also used facial recognition techniques to identify mere protesters and punish them severely [1]. They put a doctor in jail for saving lives of kids…

Referencing the BBC and the Wire here is the equivalent of quoting the WaPo when discussing Trump.

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I give zero sympathy or support to BJP and its destruction of India's democratic institutions. Yet, I can't agree with your comment. First, I don't think Razorpay supports BJP or its bigotry, at least openly. One indicator of that is that they have retained critical media like AltNews and Wire as customers from years. I don't think they'd do that if they were pro-BJP or pro-bigotry. Plus, I've noticed that rightwing…

neutrality in the face of bigotry seems like alignment, or at least it's a sign of a larger problem which you've very clearly laid out. I think it's time to consider Boycotting, divestment and sanctions of India since it's flat-spinning into the clutches of full-on fascism. Very sad.

On the same day Modi along with G7 countries were signing some declaration to protect democratic rights, his party in India was arresting Zubair for tweeting a scene from a 4-decade old movie. One commentator asked if G7 is trolling Indians.

Western democracies can certainly do a better job if they are principled but they aren't. They take only two extreme positions - either be chummy with dictators or sanction/bomb them to oblivion. Little acts of social control to keep all the dictos in check doesn't seem to be taught in western capitalism's textbooks.

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India is weird. It's not really called authoritarian (rankings don't classify it as such), but there are many similar stories of government dysfunction and overreach. Maybe someone else has a word for them?

The India system is essentially a system of “who you know”. Anyone who grew up in India knows that if you’re a powerful bureaucrat, cop, or politician, you can do whatever you want. The law doesn’t really apply to you. The only exception is if you manage to piss off someone higher up in the power hierarchy. Its not so much as authoritarian as it is Darwinian.

That’s called nepotism, not Darwinian.

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The source you quoted is questionable. "The website has published fake news[26] and anti-Muslim[30] commentary on multiple occasions, including a 2020 incident in which it falsely claimed that a Hindu boy was sacrificed in a Bihar mosque" From the wiki page of OpIndia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpIndia Also foreign credit cards were not enabled on RazorPay

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I can share ten stories where the offenders are Muslims and the victims are Hindus. Wire won't be covering those stories. This newspaper is as prejudiced against Hindus as it gets.

The Wire doesn’t need to cover them because mainstream media channels are already blasting them on primetime everyday. Amazing that in a country where there’s a Hindu in practically every single position of authority, Hindus still harbor such a deep seated victimization complex.

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#106
post #32

In UP, India, a Muslim restaurant owner was arrested because the non-veg food he wrapped with old newspapers had photos of Hindu gods and goddesses. https://thewire.in/rights/up-man-arrested-for-wrapping-chick...

Not that I support the intention of cops to go at his restaurant in the first place, in the article I read, he swung his knife at the cop as well.

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post #73
post #15

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But as the article suggests why was there a need to share data of all donors, they could have shared only those that originated outside India.

There were no transactions originating outside India, the payments were configured to accept only Indian cards.

Well, my inner cynic assumes that authorities know that. And that is exactly the reason why the wanted the records. Might be a tad hard to crack down on foreign donors, harassing domestic ones on the other hand...

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

#108
post #69

Here's what happened: - Nupur Sharma, spokesperson of the governing party (BJP) mocks Prophet Mohammed on National TV saying that he had sex with a 9 year old. She then justifies it saying she was quoting the Hadith (Islamic religious texts). - ZooBear on Twitter brings attention to the issue, via his channel AltNews - India gets international condemnation, Gulf countries are pissed - India apologizes to various Gulf…

Not entirely true.

- TV debates in India are charged and partisan.

- Nupur Sharma was debating a man named Tasneem Rehmani.

- Tasleem Rehmani said something denigrating towards a Hindu God (which is normal and typically goes unpunished and even unnoticed in India).

- Nupur Sharma countered him by saying "Do not mock my religion. Do you want me to start talking about flying horses or the fact that your Prophet married a girl at age 6 and consummated the marriage at age 9?"

- Various Islamic scholars have themselves said exactly what Nupur Sharma said. She was merely quoting their own texts in a debate.

- Debate goes on and ends. Nothing happens for days.

- Self-proclaimed 'fact checker' (not a journalist, according to himself) Mohammed Zubair edits this debate clip, removes the provocation by Tasneem Rehmani, only showing Nupur Sharma 'insulting' this religious Prophet.

- Zubair then distributes this clip across social media and various Islamic Whatsapp groups.

- In India, free speech is not absolute. Saying and doing things to create enmity between religious groups is a crime.

- The fact that what Nupur Sharma says is factual and simply a response to what Tasneem Rehmani said, becomes irrelevant.

- Many Muslims in India, millions of whom study in Islamic seminaries (madrasas), are whipped into a frenzy and behead multiple people with the slogan 'Sar Tan Se Juda' (meaning they will separate heads from bodies, in the ISIS style).

- Police and agencies arrest this 'fact checker' Zubair and are looking into his funding. This is where the RazorPay data comes in.

- Prior to his arrest, he deletes several of his social media posts and tweets mocking Hindu Gods.

- Various organizations like the BBC, New York Times, Al Jazeera as well as India's left leaning publications decry Zubair's arrest as an 'attack on democracy'.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

#109
post #30

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India is weird. It's not really called authoritarian (rankings don't classify it as such), but there are many similar stories of government dysfunction and overreach. Maybe someone else has a word for them?

Yeah its only "sort of" authoritarian, in most regions you can live quite a free life. The cases where it becomes authoritarian is when it comes to religion and criticism of the government. This is the reason that the majority of the population does not even believe in issues that exist (social, political, ecological or otherwise).

That just sounds like literally any other authoritarian country. Freedom of speech never was needed in order to speak things which are commonly agreed and central government approved.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

#110

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I can share ten stories where the offenders are Muslims and the victims are Hindus. Wire won't be covering those stories. This newspaper is as prejudiced against Hindus as it gets.

The Wire doesn’t need to cover them because mainstream media channels are already blasting them on primetime everyday. Amazing that in a country where there’s a Hindu in practically every single position of authority, Hindus still harbor such a deep seated victimization complex.

Not that amazing. In the US, see Christians, white people, and men.
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