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Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by ant6n »

buro9 wrote: post #88
iLoveOncall wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would the blockchain saying that you "own" a domain make you own it more than currently? It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain. This is the reason why wanting to apply blockchain to everything such as land ownership is laughable and shows how little blockchain fanatics understand about the very technology they praise.

When you accidentally lose it (by losing your private keys), it will be impossible for anyone else to get it back for you. In a sense, this will prove to you that you did really own it and no-one else did.

It sounds like I don't own the domain, but whoever has the Keys does.

Imagine somebody suddenly "owns" my house because they pickpocketed my house keys, without any recurse. Then I really don't own the house, do I.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by justsomeguy123 »

anunay03 wrote: post #93
tasuki wrote: post #78

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Something something blockchain! I believe for "real" ownership of domain names, a blockchain would actually make sense.

There are already projects like Handshake, ENS, Unstoppable domains that try to do this. Honestly I like the need for renewal fees for domains personally, since it means you can't just buy a domain once and squat on it forever.

Maybe renewal makes sense to prevent squatting but the question remains: who receives the money paid??

If the money were to be used to secure the network somehow, it would make sense.

If the money just goes to the creators... it was all just a money grab.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by anonymous_sorry »

gbalduzzi wrote: post #100
iLoveOncall wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would the blockchain saying that you "own" a domain make you own it more than currently? It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain. This is the reason why wanting to apply blockchain to everything such as land ownership is laughable and shows how little blockchain fanatics understand about the very technology they praise.

> It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain True, but instead of having to trust a central authority for insertion, updating, removal and constant maintenance of your "ownership", the trust would only be required for insertion. Once you purchased a domain and it's inserted in the blockchain, no one (outside of yourself) should be ab…

If you were an important, powerful or influential organisation, you could just get DNS servers, OSes and/or browsers to special-case a domain rather than refer to the blockchain. Unless you have a legal authority enforcing the rule that "what the blockchain says, goes".

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dizhn »

belorn wrote: post #90
dizhn wrote: post #85

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As far as I can tell I can visit eu.org (which redirects) but not .com . How are browsers handling it differently?

Technically "com." or even just "." could include a A record with a website. However browsers tend to strip the last "." and treat empty or names without "." in them as search terms. There exist people who disapprove of this behavior.

I understand. I don't like that behavior much myself.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dizhn »

zaarn wrote: post #89
dizhn wrote: post #85

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As far as I can tell I can visit eu.org (which redirects) but not .com . How are browsers handling it differently?

eu.org is a public suffix (check the list), which means that every domain below it is treated as it's own seperate security context. Meaning cookies are not shared between domain-a.eu.org and domain-b.eu.org. If they weren't on the public suffix list, cookies would be shared. This also affect a myriad of other contexts that the browser applies against the public suffix list.

I didn't think of that. Thanks.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by dizhn »

belorn wrote: post #87
dizhn wrote: post #71

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From the site "The main goal of EU.org is to provide free subdomain registration to users or non-profit organizations who cannot afford the fees demanded by some NICs." They don't claim to be issuing domain names at all.

Since the site is the one that made the title, they are inconsistent in how they describe the services. One way to define a distinction is to look at liability and legal standing. Do users under eu.org have any rights, and if there is abuse, how much legal liability do eu.org have? To take an example, HN users can be kicked out of here at the whims of ycombinator. TLD's usually don't do that and generally require a c…

They are indeed using the name interchangibly. I guess what I meant to say is they are not claiming to be providing a proper TLD when they aren't. I guess it doesn't matter much in practice and that's why people in this thread are using it interchangibly too.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by bipson »

afiori wrote: post #36
bipson wrote: post #30

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Wow, the guys from .aero had a few categories in mind... so did some south american countries. Does anyone know why bulgaria thought this was a good idea? > bg > (a-z).bg > (0-9).bg I can't find the mentioned "rules"-document... Edit: shorter representation of original list

have you seen the Italian and Japanese section of that document? Italy registered subdomains for all its regions and provinces, including spelling variations. All of the following domains are for the same region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trentino-Alto_Adige/S%C3%BCdti... trentin-sud-tirol.it trentin-süd-tirol.it trentin-sudtirol.it trentin-südtirol.it trentin-sued-tirol.it trentin-suedtirol.it trentino-a-adige.i…

Yes, but this has a system, where I don't get "0.bg, 1.bg, 2.bg, ..."

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by bilekas »

amenghra wrote: post #20
bilekas wrote: post #15

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You lease it, you don't buy it. Like an appartment. Can lease it, or purchase it.

Devil’s advocate: the appartement or land you own still requires paying annual government taxes (and sometimes various other fees) in most places.

That isn't the apartment though ? I'm just demonstrating the difference for every day folks.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Post by Tepix »

NKosmatos wrote: post #53

Oh great, another source of "nice looking" .eu.org domains to be used by spammers and for phishing. I bet there will be many naive users (to put it lighlty) that will fall for a scam originating or using such domains :-(

What makes these domains more suitable for scams than other domains? The fact that they're free?

The scams i am getting use low quality domain names hidden behind the domain they are faking.

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