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Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#101

Post by berntb »

derrickpetzold wrote: post #98
berntb wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>... not just pressing the down arrow because someone said something you don't like. Sigh... :-) He started : >>Nobody was down voting you to make themselves right. But the remarks that you made about CPAN to be frank didn't make any sense [etc] Are you really surprised about the down votes...?

> Sigh... :-) I honestly have no idea what you mean by that :). > Are you really surprised about the down votes...? For that post of course not. For the others yes. I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint "Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them." and no I don't think I had anything genuinely new to bring but I how could I know about some…

>>I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint

My trivial point was that your claim about the down votes was contradicted in the first sentences. It seems you missed that, too.

>>if people can't acknowledge the flaws in a thing

Quite fun to do personal attacks like that after such creative way of misreading.

Edit: Sorry for wasting time/space, I am easily trolled.

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#102

Post by TorKlingberg »

bluekeybox wrote: post #38

If you really want to learn Perl, you must install the read-eval-print loop (REPL) utility. If you have never used this utility, I will have serious grounds to doubt your Perl skills. Unlike Ruby or Python (or most other modern high-level programming languages), Perl does not come with an interactive REPL shell, which makes no sense at all, since, due to Perl's obscure syntax, someone trying out Perl would benefit at…

> sudo /usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e shell This reminds me of a gripe with Perl: If you are on a machine where you lack root, everything is a lot less convenient.

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#103

Post by pg »

berntb wrote: post #101
derrickpetzold wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sigh... :-) I honestly have no idea what you mean by that :). > Are you really surprised about the down votes...? For that post of course not. For the others yes. I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint "Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them." and no I don't think I had anything genuinely new to bring but I how could I know about some…

>>I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint My trivial point was that your claim about the down votes was contradicted in the first sentences. It seems you missed that, too. >>if people can't acknowledge the flaws in a thing Quite fun to do personal attacks like that after such creative way of misreading. Edit: Sorry for wasting time/space, I am easily trolled.

Will you please stop?

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#104

Post by derrickpetzold »

berntb wrote: post #101
derrickpetzold wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sigh... :-) I honestly have no idea what you mean by that :). > Are you really surprised about the down votes...? For that post of course not. For the others yes. I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint "Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them." and no I don't think I had anything genuinely new to bring but I how could I know about some…

>>I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint My trivial point was that your claim about the down votes was contradicted in the first sentences. It seems you missed that, too. >>if people can't acknowledge the flaws in a thing Quite fun to do personal attacks like that after such creative way of misreading. Edit: Sorry for wasting time/space, I am easily trolled.

Hi. Thank you for taking all the things I said out of context. I am going to try my best to do the same despite the fact that I believe this is what HN is trying to avoid, moderator.

> My trivial point was that your claim about the down votes was contradicted in the first sentences. It seems you missed that, too.

I am sorry you think your thoughts are trivial and despite your grammatical errors I would love to know how a first sentence can be plural. I have no doubt that I missed a lot things prior. That was my entire point of my following posts. Maybe if I knew which first sentence you were referring to I could have a better response.

> Quite fun to do personal attacks like that after such creative way of misreading.

There were no personal attacks in the previous posts unless of course you are Perl. In this post maybe there are many only because you made it so.

And I would appreciate if you read this small thread, moderator, and came back with an intelligent reply.

Yes I could have not been a dick on this but you reap what you sow.

Edit: Thank you for trolling moderator.

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#105

Post by altxwally »

bbbbbbbbb wrote: post #92

Perl is a really great language that i came to love over the years. First, I've been writing PHP stuff then moved to Perl and experienced Java,Actionscript,Javascript,Objective-C,Python... But all of them, Perl was the most powerful and expressive language. For those who learn Javascript, Perl object literal notation should be really easy to get and if you do some jQuery stuff, many things should come naturally to yo…

> Perl is very active here in Japan.

Considering the amount of legacy Perl scripts that I have had to rewrite since I got to Japan due to a lack of Perl developers that can mantain them, I'd think that Japan's Galapagos argument does not work so much in this case. I think that it is also losing strength around here.

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#107

Post by walrusty »

berntb wrote: post #41
hippich wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

simply: $ sudo cpan Devel::REPL also you can do this: $ perl -e 'print "Hello World!\n";'

Huh, I thought "everyone" used perlbrew now? It has been on my todo to try the REPL for a long time, but since Perl is the most powerful command line tool in bash, I've never seen a reason to use an interactive tool. alias p=perl p -e '...' p -ne '....' # etc. Edit: With powerful I didn't mean "rm -rf", etc. :-)

I don't use perlbrew. Haven't tried it, since installing your own Perl by-hand is easy enough.

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#108

Post by vhold »

TorKlingberg wrote: post #102
bluekeybox wrote: post #38

If you really want to learn Perl, you must install the read-eval-print loop (REPL) utility. If you have never used this utility, I will have serious grounds to doubt your Perl skills. Unlike Ruby or Python (or most other modern high-level programming languages), Perl does not come with an interactive REPL shell, which makes no sense at all, since, due to Perl's obscure syntax, someone trying out Perl would benefit at…

> sudo /usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e shell This reminds me of a gripe with Perl: If you are on a machine where you lack root, everything is a lot less convenient.

This is true, but local::lib has come along and made things much easier:

http://search.cpan.org/~apeiron/local-lib-1.008004/lib/local...

This very handily includes instructions on how to bootstrap its own installation.

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#109

Post by derrickpetzold »

derrickpetzold wrote: post #104
berntb wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>I can only assume you are coming from this viewpoint My trivial point was that your claim about the down votes was contradicted in the first sentences. It seems you missed that, too. >>if people can't acknowledge the flaws in a thing Quite fun to do personal attacks like that after such creative way of misreading. Edit: Sorry for wasting time/space, I am easily trolled.

Hi. Thank you for taking all the things I said out of context. I am going to try my best to do the same despite the fact that I believe this is what HN is trying to avoid, moderator. > My trivial point was that your claim about the down votes was contradicted in the first sentences. It seems you missed that, too. I am sorry you think your thoughts are trivial and despite your grammatical errors I would love to know h…

haha you crack me up HN. So I get downvoted but the self confessed moderating troll doesn't. That's awesome and for that I give you this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh92DrYEWs

Re: Learn Perl in about 2 hours 30 minutes

#110

Post by bbbbbbbbb »

altxwally wrote: post #105
bbbbbbbbb wrote: post #92

Perl is a really great language that i came to love over the years. First, I've been writing PHP stuff then moved to Perl and experienced Java,Actionscript,Javascript,Objective-C,Python... But all of them, Perl was the most powerful and expressive language. For those who learn Javascript, Perl object literal notation should be really easy to get and if you do some jQuery stuff, many things should come naturally to yo…

> Perl is very active here in Japan. Considering the amount of legacy Perl scripts that I have had to rewrite since I got to Japan due to a lack of Perl developers that can mantain them, I'd think that Japan's Galapagos argument does not work so much in this case. I think that it is also losing strength around here.

It does not mean that Perl is not active in Japan though. Many big companies in Japan uses Perl as the language of choice for their websites but indeed,I won't say that it's not loosing some market share though.
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