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Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by roel_v » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:29 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #85

iradik wrote: post #81

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how old and how tall are you?

23, 5ft 11.5in (Hey, the doctor's the one who's always like "11 and a half", not me! Then I'm always tempted to say "You mean 11.5323in")

1/2 inch is still more than one centimeter, so I can imagine that to stay within the tolerance that is used for tracking height globally, this level of detail is necessary. (doctors in places that use sane measurement systems usually round to either the centimeter or 1/2 centimeter even, which is +/- 1/5th of an inch).

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by palish » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:29 AM UTC

roel_v wrote: post #99

dredmorbius wrote: post #91

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It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot, but I'd estimate your body fat at about 25%-30% based on your face, and what appears to be a pretty soft abdomen. Given your weight of 220#, that means you're carrying about 55-66# of fat on you. Drop that to 10-15% (a pretty good athletic range) without losing muscle, and you'd be somewhere in the 170 - 190# range.

"It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot," Be careful there - next thing you know he's going to post a photo in his underwear. All for science, of course ;)

Well, if you insist... But on the other hand, you could get those pictures from your mom. (Hi Sarah! ;))

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by JanezStupar » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:33 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #88

JanezStupar wrote: post #86

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On health criteria - I'm not implying that you should be all "Jersey Style". However - for me, first sign of health is muscle tonus - yours seems not very good (as is most geeks). Then your hair seems in a pretty bad shape - that has less to do with washing and more with food you consume. And your general posture does not imply - "I am fit for battle" (you also look sleep depraved). On convenience of healthy food. It…

Thank you. It's so rare nowadays to find someone willing to give perfectly honest feedback, like "your posture sucks, and you look sleepy". I didn't realize hair quality might be linked to nutrition. Also, I appreciate how much work you put into your reply. Do you have any thoughts on using Crystal Light to make water taste less terrible? Someday, when I have more than $1k of savings, I hope to live in a nice rental…

AFAIK - Crystal Light at worst, has a lot of same stuff as sodas, minus the sugar. Which is already a substantial improvement. I don't know what the tap water quality in your area is - but it could very well be bad. However there might be ways of getting a good, cheap water supply if you are in mountainous areas. Id recommend that you stick to pure water if possible - otherwise do what it takes (you might even buy bottled water - but note that in some scenarios bottled watter is worse than tap water - I am super lucky here again, since I live in alpine area where water supply is abundant and of extreme quality).

Regarding vegetables: Onions, garlic, potatoes (early variety), cucumber, cabbage, green beans (we buy dry beans in bulk), beet root, tomatoes and pumpkins. I grow various medicinal herbs and spices. Of fruit I have some grapes, apples, plums and raspberries. Its all just standard central European crops really.

With this capacity we are able to satisfy all vegetable requirements for a family of 5 from late April till late autumn. You should plant various strains of lettuce and green-beans so you have a constant supply over whole season.

Hope you will be able to grow your own food someday.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by jokull » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:42 AM UTC

bfe wrote: post #53

KristenM wrote: post #21

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Good news! I'm not an industry shill. I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools my three kids and earns money blogging. If you read the disclosure statements on my site, you'll see that I never write paid posts or content. I do sell advertising, though, (from which I make a pretty penny, thank you) and the link is a link to a page full of text ads. I used to be a copywriter, but haven't done that since my blog took off…

Welcome and glad to have you. And while you're not a shill, I find your site misguided, in overly relying on equating natural, traditional diets with healthy, leading you to some recommendations that are orthogonal to healthiness, like fermented veggies and sprouted grains, and some that are unhelpful to health, like red meat and butter. The people of Finland drastically improved their health metrics when they transi…

I haven't commented on Hacker News for a while now. But let me rake in the downvotes and say that this kind of answer is the reason I can't be bothered anymore. Let's face it, this is a geeky forum. And geeks just can't refrain from giving their opinions and facts. They only need to spend a night reading Wikipedia articles about nutrition to have the right to shit all over someones comments that are marginally overlapping on their new domain of expertise. The tone above, jesus christ. She wasn't even asking for an opinion.

Worst community ever. The arrogance that comes with smarts.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by redthrowaway » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:44 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #88

JanezStupar wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On health criteria - I'm not implying that you should be all "Jersey Style". However - for me, first sign of health is muscle tonus - yours seems not very good (as is most geeks). Then your hair seems in a pretty bad shape - that has less to do with washing and more with food you consume. And your general posture does not imply - "I am fit for battle" (you also look sleep depraved). On convenience of healthy food. It…

Thank you. It's so rare nowadays to find someone willing to give perfectly honest feedback, like "your posture sucks, and you look sleepy". I didn't realize hair quality might be linked to nutrition. Also, I appreciate how much work you put into your reply. Do you have any thoughts on using Crystal Light to make water taste less terrible? Someday, when I have more than $1k of savings, I hope to live in a nice rental…

>Do you have any thoughts on using Crystal Light to make water taste less terrible?

Water tastes fantastic. It's sweet. An all-soda-and-mcsquats' diet has killed your taste buds, so anything that isn't loaded with sugar and salt (never mind the Coke, your McChicken has a crazy amount of added sugar) will taste bland to you. Cut the crap out of your diet, and the good stuff will taste good again.

Now, all of this is modulo your local water supply. Here in Vancouver our water tastes great, but we're lucky. You might not be in the same boat. Try grabbing a brita water filter and keep it full, in the fridge.

As for grown foods: tomatoes are great and easy to grow. If you have sun, blackberries are literally weeds and will take care of themselves. Carrots and potatoes are the same way. You should always have some chives growing somewhere; they add delicious flavour to most things. Lettuces and cabbages are fairly easy, but you have to keep slugs and whatnot away or they'll eat them before you get the chance. Same deal with spinach. Peas and beans are pretty easy to grow, although you'll need a lattice. Cucumbers and zucchini are easy to grow, as well. Note, that is in no way an endorsement of zucchini. I don't advocate it's consumption; I'm just pointing out that it's easy to grow.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by palish » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:55 AM UTC

jokull wrote: post #104

bfe wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome and glad to have you. And while you're not a shill, I find your site misguided, in overly relying on equating natural, traditional diets with healthy, leading you to some recommendations that are orthogonal to healthiness, like fermented veggies and sprouted grains, and some that are unhelpful to health, like red meat and butter. The people of Finland drastically improved their health metrics when they transi…

I haven't commented on Hacker News for a while now. But let me rake in the downvotes and say that this kind of answer is the reason I can't be bothered anymore. Let's face it, this is a geeky forum. And geeks just can't refrain from giving their opinions and facts. They only need to spend a night reading Wikipedia articles about nutrition to have the right to shit all over someones comments that are marginally overla…

I agree that HN would be much, much nicer if people would just show a little respect.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by dredmorbius » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 9:58 AM UTC

roel_v wrote: post #99

dredmorbius wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot, but I'd estimate your body fat at about 25%-30% based on your face, and what appears to be a pretty soft abdomen. Given your weight of 220#, that means you're carrying about 55-66# of fat on you. Drop that to 10-15% (a pretty good athletic range) without losing muscle, and you'd be somewhere in the 170 - 190# range.

"It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot," Be careful there - next thing you know he's going to post a photo in his underwear. All for science, of course ;)

If he does, I'll point him at the T-Nation "Rate My Physique" rules for posing.

Newbies always forget wheel shots.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by redthrowaway » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 10:08 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #47

wisty wrote: post #42

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I doubt the whole "metabolism" thing. 90% of the people I meet with a "gland problem" also drink about half a gallon of Coke every day, and snack on chips or sweets. Maybe they have a super-cream frappacino after work, but don't watch that because it's just a coffee. They usually have terrible habits, are are in complete denial about how many calories those habits constitute.

I drink 88oz of coke every day. A gallon is 128oz. I also snack on chips a lot. I'm definitely not skinny, but by your logic, I should be about to overtake Gabe Newell. I'm not. Most people are arrogant and think they know more than they do. The truth is, we know very little about nutrition (in an absolute sense, like "I absolutely know that if I hit that ball with X force, it will move Y meters").

>The truth is, we know very little about nutrition

We know what you're consuming doesn't qualify as nutrition.

Dude, you eat garbage. This isn't a hippy-crunchy-vegan thing; the "food" you eat is trash.

If you want to sooth your sweet tooth, go to your grocery store and buy a metric fuckton of berries. They're in season. Leave your strawberries and blackberries in the fridge, and throw your raspberries (they don't keep) and blueberries (they're fantastic frozen) in the freezer. Grab some bananas and milk while you're there.

Make a smoothy like so: 1 banana, 4-5 strawberries, a bunch of blue-, black-, and raspberries, put 'em in the blender. Fill the cracks with milk. Blend. Drink. You'll have to balance the berries for taste, as raspberries and commercial blackberries are sour; strawberries, blueberries, wild (ripe) blackberries, and bananas are sweet.

Do that, and you can satisfy your sweet tooth and get loads of good vitamins and whatnot in you. It's also easier than walking to the store, and not terribly expensive.

Remember those blueberries you put in the freezer? Next time you want candy or chocolate or something, munch on them. They're delicious (big ones are better).

One last note: stop pretending that your diet is okay. It really, really isn't. Your body is operating in spite of what you're putting into it, not because of it.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by __rkaup__ » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 10:16 AM UTC

palish wrote: post #50

saturn wrote: post #41

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No offence, but only an American could make the argument that because their weight has stayed "only" between 95kg and 100kg that they are living proof that people can eat what they want and not get fat. Unless you are a bodybuilder, which I am guessing you are not since they most certainly do care about what they eat, you are likely considered overweight in every other country on earth.

Well, here I am. Judge for yourself: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700... I drink over half gallon of soda a day, and survive mostly on $1 McChickens. So I'm either a freak of nature, or we don't know as much as we think we do about nature.

Click this link instead. He left the ?dl=1 on there.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700...

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by CaptainZapp » Fri, Jul 29, 2011, 10:18 AM UTC

roel_v wrote: post #100

CaptainZapp wrote: post #72

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I add it here, because at your more inner post there's no reply link. If you think Chicken McNuggets have a lot to do with chicken, think again. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_McNuggets "As of October 9, 2010, the ingredients are as follows: Chicken, water, salt, sodium phosphates. Battered and breaded with: bleached wheat flour, water, wheat flour, food starch-modified, salt, spices, wheat gluten, paprika…

Your post does not in any way prove that there isn't a lot of chicken in a McNugget (I don't know anything about them, so not claiming there is or isn't). Just because there are a lot of added ingredients, if the overall mass of the chicken is 95% (some made up number, again I don't know anything about this), it's not true that McNuggets 'don't have a lot to do with chicken'.

Sigh!

From http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/195157/exposing_mcd...

  Here's a fun fact: their "chicken" is actually, at most, 44 percent chicken. The rest is mostly corn, salt, preservatives, and a few other interesting nasties.

If you can come up with a better source I'm happy to consider it.