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Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by paxys »

yarky wrote: post #99
paxys wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> based on the quantile their revenue falls in Are you calculating this quantile with respect to their neighbors' revenue? The rest of the city? County? State? Country? Or the entire world? You will get a different answer for each of them.

That's part of your modelling. If you're interested in the neighborhood's income distribution, then use the neighborhood's data. If you're interested in the world's distribution, then use world data. This depends on how you want to look at the issue, but it comes down to a number yes.

That's my entire point. You need a (number, location) combo to many any reasonable deduction, not just a number.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by jdavis703 »

ipaddr wrote: post #43
retrac wrote: post #3

It's fascinating how much wider the class gap is there, but so many of the same dynamics sound familiar. Parts of it read as very familiar to me. In Toronto, as a guy from a small town and a working class background. It is also very different for me, of course. Ultimately very few Canadians are "poor", in a sense. I could walk into one of our hospitals on one of those dates and be seen for free. Social assistance pai…

It sounds like you are away from home feel a sense of freedom and got sucked into a downtown lifestyle with no budget. I don't understand why out of towners move downtown and only downtown where local people have moved to other areas of the city because of price and affordability. Somehow downtown feels safe because as a tourist that's what you see. For those moving get out of the downtown core and be able to afford…

I lived in downtown adjacent neighborhoods for years before moving downtown. This isn’t going to be my forever neighborhood but it’s really nice being able to walk to a _wide_ selection of restaurants nearby, be close to well-maintained parks and have multiple transit lines to take into work.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by RHSeeger »

chinchilla2020 wrote: post #37
thebean11 wrote: post #9

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Not disagreeing with your overall point, but amount of money (based on currency exchange rates) is a bad way to compare poverty levels across different areas. It doesn't take into account cost of living which makes a huge difference.

Even with cost of living comparisons, an American making minimum wage can easily afford a mobile phone, particularly a cheap $25 phone. In many parts of the world that mobile phone will require substantial budgeting over several months to afford.

> an American making minimum wage can easily afford a mobile phone, particularly a cheap $25 phone

It's probably worth noting that "easily" probably doesn't belong in there for a lot of people.

This is a really good read, if you're interested https://residentcontrarian.substack.com/p/on-the-experience-...

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by _y5hn »

sombremesa wrote: post #93
DoreenMichele wrote: post #83

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Many years ago, I read of a study that measured poverty not in terms of income but with metrics like "How many meals per day do you get?" and "What kind of shelter do you have?" It concluded that less than 1/2 of one percent of Americans were poor by standards in India. When I've repeated that online, on at least one occasion someone who lived in India got mad at me for supposedly promoting negative stereotypes and t…

> I don't know what the solution is for trying to promote better cross cultural understanding. I think that's just it: trying to promote better cross cultural understanding. That's something I tried with the GP here, but I could probably write up an article to be linked to in such discussions. > metrics like "How many meals per day do you get?" and "What kind of shelter do you have?" I think this is a good thought, a…

India has lots of villages, slums and people in between having very poor material standards compared to Western countries. But people are also much more interconnected, rely on each other and find ways to get by. So to get that culture, you have to spend at least 6 months and really get to know what family values are, and how things tend to work out. It's very different than the lonely individualist countries. Many Indians actually move back home to be with family and friends!

So superficial analyses may just not be very recognizable to the population, because of very different value systems and nuances.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by bboylen »

doit4thebitties wrote: post #60

Dating never requires money. And no guy should be a free dinner dispenser or ATM for commercial activities for someone he doesn't even know. You can click, talk, walk, dance, and kiss for free... anywhere and everywhere. Besides, dinner and coffee interview dates are too formal and boring.. zzz.

If you can't have a fun conversation over coffee or dinner you probably arent compatible

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by throwthere »

sombremesa wrote: post #7

My first thought when reading this was hoping that these types of articles will reduce the comments I see on the internet that try and compare Delhi/Mumbai squalor to LA. Then I read the first comment on this HN thread, which is directly comparing this to Toronto. So either Westerners don't realize that people in these places are making less money in a month than the middle class person can expect to spend in an aver…

Yesterday someone posted admonishing billionaires who live lives without the sort of day-to-day experiences the rest of us do. They cited their concerns— finding enough free time to do activities, getting along with co-workers, etc. It’s just this great disconnect you run into online— people don’t realize a great deal of the world would see having those [working-class] types of concerns as luxurious and disconnected from their own. It’s just a gap you see a lot of here, you really have to work to remember how bad billions of people have it.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by DoreenMichele »

sombremesa wrote: post #93
DoreenMichele wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many years ago, I read of a study that measured poverty not in terms of income but with metrics like "How many meals per day do you get?" and "What kind of shelter do you have?" It concluded that less than 1/2 of one percent of Americans were poor by standards in India. When I've repeated that online, on at least one occasion someone who lived in India got mad at me for supposedly promoting negative stereotypes and t…

> I don't know what the solution is for trying to promote better cross cultural understanding. I think that's just it: trying to promote better cross cultural understanding. That's something I tried with the GP here, but I could probably write up an article to be linked to in such discussions. > metrics like "How many meals per day do you get?" and "What kind of shelter do you have?" I think this is a good thought, a…

I'm a former military wife. Just trying to explain how military life is different to other Americans was insanely hard.

I lived in the same country. I used the same currency. I spoke the same language. Yet my life was not like that of civilians I knew and their underlying assumptions and mine that informed our decisions just did not match up to such a degree that I eventually stopped trying to explain my life choices even to people quite close to me who simply did not get the context and that their decision-making matrix and mine were largely unrelated.

I wish you luck in trying to figure out how to do this.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by em-bee »

ImprobableTruth wrote: post #72
chrisseaton wrote: post #63

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Upper class starting at around 100k would give America an upper class of around a third of the population! I guess we're meaning entirely different things since an upper class of a third of the population seems like a contradiction in terms to me!

I assume they're talking about 100k individual income as opposed to household income?

household of three. the 106k number comes from data from 2010. in the same article the range for 2016 is $45,200 to $135,600 annually for a household of three.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by bboylen »

Invictus0 wrote: post #71
webmobdev wrote: post #27

Something I dislike about the whole "dating" thing (a very US cultural influence due to their media) is that what is supposed to be a normal socialising event between too people, is made into a consumerist ritual . So much that two couples walking in a park or hanging with their friends is not really a "date" or you being cheapskate as, apparently, romance without money is no longer romance.

This is not just a "walk in the park" date. I have seen these parks myself, in Delhi and in Mumbai--there are literally dozens of couples kissing and having sex in the dark in these tiny, tiny parks, hardly 30 feet between couples. It is a date of last resort in a gossip-heavy culture--there is no privacy, and young people are shamed for wanting to experience love, especially if it's with the "wrong" person.

Damn thats crazy. Had no idea this was a thing over there.

So different from my experience in the US

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Post by heavyset_go »

bakuninsbart wrote: post #94
jimbob45 wrote: post #79

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It’s not about building more housing. There is enough housing to house everyone in the US and then some. Homelessness is not just about finding/funding a home. You need food and transportation for a job. If the solution were as simple as throwing money at the homeless, California would have long ago solved their homelessness issue.

My experiences with homeless people in California are very limited to my trip there 10 years ago. I did have a really good conversation with someone giving me some tips about SF for a dollar, and I was robbed by someone else while walking home late at night. Neither of those guys seemed mentally ill, but if my own country is anything to go by, a lot of these people have serious mental issues to deal with, and sitting…

The vast majority of homeless people in the US are homeless for economic reasons[1], and not because of mental illness or addiction.

[1] https://nlchp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Homeless_Stats_...

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