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Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by codyogden »

sgift wrote: post #95
Clewza313 wrote: post #29

> Third, a lot of Pichai's big bets have failed: Google Glass, Google Plus, Google Wave, Project Loon Every single one of these predates Pichai, who only became CEO in 2015: * Google Wave was already turned down in 2012 * Google Plus launched in 2011 and the writing was on the wall by 2015 * Google Glass consumer edition was discontinued in Jan 2015 before Pichai started * Loon is the only arguable exception; it was…

And isn't Google Glass redirected at companies were it enjoys (a moderate) success?

Correct. It’s been utilized in a highly limited capacity in enterprise conditions, like manufacturing. The Community Edition (aka consumer version) was killed.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by [deleted] »

quaintdev wrote: post #91
nirui wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you look around across all the industries, it is not very hard to realize that most big names that you can easily recognize were created by few giants. Giants is the norm. A real hero knows when to resist the fear and borrow the power from the giants.

True. Google at least does not create walled gardens like FB. You are not even allowed to post link in comment section. That's a tactic to keep users on its own platform. Recently they have stopped allowing people to browse even browse public profiles.

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by onion2k »

Clewza313 wrote: post #29

> Third, a lot of Pichai's big bets have failed: Google Glass, Google Plus, Google Wave, Project Loon Every single one of these predates Pichai, who only became CEO in 2015: * Google Wave was already turned down in 2012 * Google Plus launched in 2011 and the writing was on the wall by 2015 * Google Glass consumer edition was discontinued in Jan 2015 before Pichai started * Loon is the only arguable exception; it was…

Pinchai joined Google in 2004, and was "Product Chief" prior to becoming CEO. He's been responsible for a lot of Google products.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by dkdk8283 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #78

Does anyone think that Google cares about the free and open Internet anymore? I don’t mean they oppose it, I just mean it doesn’t seem like it’s on the list of things the company prioritizes. It sometimes seems like Google’s internal self-image is stuck in 2001, when they were an idealistic search engine company whose goal was to organize the world’s information. Today they are an ad company, running some office apps…

Join G and masquerade as a zealot and you will soon be invited to off-campus chat networks where employees strategize how to cancel the next “asshole” on their radar. It’s sickening and they should all go to jail for it.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by [deleted] »

snowwrestler wrote: post #78

Does anyone think that Google cares about the free and open Internet anymore? I don’t mean they oppose it, I just mean it doesn’t seem like it’s on the list of things the company prioritizes. It sometimes seems like Google’s internal self-image is stuck in 2001, when they were an idealistic search engine company whose goal was to organize the world’s information. Today they are an ad company, running some office apps…

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by pydry »

quaintdev wrote: post #90
jaimex2 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google also seems to be one of the few entities in the world capable of buying kick-ass startups. Fixed it for you.

But to buy those kick ass startups you originally have to be kick ass.

Yay for google being kick ass in 2004?

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by pydry »

tomc1985 wrote: post #74
iratewizard wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like how YouTube has become a more open and free platform in their care. Or how search results have become more open and free since they dominated market share.

Your definition of 'open and free' smells a lot like 'built to favor commercial entities over information pages' Most of my searches result in a wall of sales or product pages. Hardly 'open' when they turned it into glorified yellow pages

I think it was sarcasm.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by ahiknsr »

onion2k wrote: post #103
Clewza313 wrote: post #29

> Third, a lot of Pichai's big bets have failed: Google Glass, Google Plus, Google Wave, Project Loon Every single one of these predates Pichai, who only became CEO in 2015: * Google Wave was already turned down in 2012 * Google Plus launched in 2011 and the writing was on the wall by 2015 * Google Glass consumer edition was discontinued in Jan 2015 before Pichai started * Loon is the only arguable exception; it was…

Pinchai joined Google in 2004, and was "Product Chief" prior to becoming CEO. He's been responsible for a lot of Google products.

> Third, a lot of Pichai's big bets have failed: Google Glass, Google Plus, Google Wave, Project Loon

> He's been responsible for a lot of Google products.

He might have been responsible but i wouldn't call those projects as Pichai's big bets.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by Tarsul »

zimpenfish wrote: post #98
retox wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now you've seen how a "journalist" doesn't have the patience to spend 60 seconds searching for something you're knowledgeable about, will you (not you specifically) take as gospel anything they say about something you're not knowledgeable about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnes...

I have to say, I find this bit amusing: "That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say." The last 4 years of US politics (and 20? of UK politics) have given the lie to that belief. [edit: added UK politics because they're just as bad]

It's the same with typical sales persons: Even though they constantly exaggerate, you want to believe (unless there's animosity). So you take it into account that they exaggerate, but not by as much as they do exaggerate. Which means it's still better for them to do it than not. At least that's my impression of these dynamics, would love good studies about it.
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