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Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Google is literally the only tech giant with an interest in the open internet. Facebook scored the mortal wound on the web — they reinvented a bigger, badder AOL closed garden.

Google also seems to be one of the few entities in the world capable of building kick-ass web apps.

Google also seems to be one of the few entities in the world capable of buying kick-ass startups.

Fixed it for you.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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As a casual website owner, I find Google is the main culprit. My original articles were buried under content farms full of copypastas.

Lots of my URLs were either "Discovered – currently not indexed" or "Crawled - currently not indexed", but spam sites are happily searchable with the exact same content. And I don't want spend to fight SEO.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is literally the only tech giant with an interest in the open internet. Facebook scored the mortal wound on the web — they reinvented a bigger, badder AOL closed garden.

Google also seems to be one of the few entities in the world capable of building kick-ass web apps.

I've yet to see a single kick ass web app from Google. All of them are barely functioning slow-as-molasses slugs (or I'm jaded by the entire GCP experience).

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Google is literally the only tech giant with an interest in the open internet. Facebook scored the mortal wound on the web — they reinvented a bigger, badder AOL closed garden.

Just like how YouTube has become a more open and free platform in their care. Or how search results have become more open and free since they dominated market share.

Your definition of 'open and free' smells a lot like 'built to favor commercial entities over information pages'

Most of my searches result in a wall of sales or product pages. Hardly 'open' when they turned it into glorified yellow pages

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Google's main product is ads, not search. Search (and Mail, and Video) are just mechanisms for offering ads. By balkanising the internet they can have a monopoly over offering ads to certain target groups that fall within their walled garden.

That isn't how this works, Google doesn't have good enough content to compete with other tech giants without the open web. If Google kills the web then Google kills itself. Most of their money comes from their search web page and not the ads from other sites, so people browsing the web is their main source of revenue. Their other sites are big, yes, but not big enough to make them one of the few most valuable compani…

> If Google kills the web then Google kills itself

That's why Google instead reshapes the web as Google sees fit.

> Anyway, Google works hard to make the open web competitive with all the walled gardens around

No. It subsumes the web and replaces it with all things Google. It dominates all web-related standards bodies, pushes through half-baked Chrome-only APIs as "standards" and then presents them as fait accompli through Google-controlled properties like web.dev.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Does anyone think that Google cares about the free and open Internet anymore? I don’t mean they oppose it, I just mean it doesn’t seem like it’s on the list of things the company prioritizes.

It sometimes seems like Google’s internal self-image is stuck in 2001, when they were an idealistic search engine company whose goal was to organize the world’s information.

Today they are an ad company, running some office apps and cloud computing on the side. The transition has been great for revenue but it seems like they long ago sold the moral authority to make pronouncements about the free and open Internet.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google also seems to be one of the few entities in the world capable of building kick-ass web apps.

I've yet to see a single kick ass web app from Google. All of them are barely functioning slow-as-molasses slugs (or I'm jaded by the entire GCP experience).

The early (invite-only) versions of gmail were fantastic, especially given the narrower pipes we were all surfing with in those days.

It seems lately that Google has just become Yet Another Large Software Firm, with everything that that implies.

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