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An Asian Uber Driver Was Attacked by a Mob. Then YouTube Took Down His Video

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

avs733 wrote: post #39
sourabhforu wrote: post #28

As sad as this incident is, equally sad are the comments on this post here- People who are using this incident and youtube's actions to fit their own agenda, rant against youtube (instead of addressing the real elephant- uber exploiting its drivers) and justifying their own sense of racial wrong and injustices. Nothing in the article indicates that this incident was racially motivated in any way. Grow up. Read the ar…

Check out the Op’s submission history. It is ALL articles like this.

Check out the site itself - it's all this kind of garbage.

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Post by fersho311 »

haram_masala wrote: post #69
nemothekid wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like a useless corollary, nor does it answer my question. I can't tell if you are intentionally trying to erase the motivations and replace them with skin color. There is an ideological difference between a white teenager shooting up a black church and a black teenager shooting a gang. Only in one did race play a motivation in the shooting. Coming back to my point, the GP is claiming there is an ideologica…

Just to explore this: what exactly is your objection to the often-cited observation that black people, who are 13% of the population, commit 52% of the violent crimes? I don’t even know if that’s accurate - if not, then surely that’s the biggest problem with it. But if it’s true, then why is it a dog whistle? I’m not challenging you here, I’m trying to understand why it’s wrong to state it in this kind of context.

I think it’s more like... any race that endured systemic abuse and live with the limited opportunities will commit majority of the violent crimes.

Specifying the race has a tendency to make people correlate the violence with race, which can lead to racism.

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Post by alephnan »

nobodyandproud wrote: post #90

Back in 2016, wasn’t “Meet the Flockers” identified as encouraging black on asian violence? Isn’t Youtube still hosting it?

Not officially, but the song has finally been pulled from various platforms as recent as 2 months ago.

The YG concert in Oakland a few years back actually had lots of Asian people there. As an Asian, I don’t want to excuse the song. It was just made in bad taste, before everyone became so sensitive.

What irks me is not the song itself or YG, I like his music, but the double standard and hypocrisy of people applying cancel culture only when it’s convenient to. For example, if an asian person made a song in the reverse. I’d rather get rid of cancel culture altogether

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Post by throw179804 »

haram_masala wrote: post #13
rafale wrote: post #8

The title doesn't specify the perpetrator is white and doesn't mention white supremacy. It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence. If someone saw the video, can you please confirm my hunch?

There was a screenshot of the video, and sadly your hunch is correct.

Twitter link (with video, not taken down) https://twitter.com/vincentkangnow/status/139344934049724416...

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Post by anonymouse121 »

tolbish wrote: post #74
anonymouse121 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so weird how opposing the male gender was accepted with the #MeToo movement against men (based on flimsy evidence regarding widespread sexual assault), but having a #MeToo against blacks (for their well-documented extraordinary crime rates) is a "dog whistle".

It's obvious which comments are made in cowardice, as they will generally be from brand new accounts. Your premise is pretty flawed, as it would be ridiculous to blame all men during MeToo, much like it would be ridiculous to blame all members of a race.

Why mention men at all in the "MeToo" movement? Why aren't we allowed to mention black people committing more crime? Stereotyping men and some races is perfectly acceptable, stereotyping blacks is not. It's pathetic that people flag comments instead of giving any reasonable response.

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Post by haram_masala »

fersho311 wrote: post #102
haram_masala wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to explore this: what exactly is your objection to the often-cited observation that black people, who are 13% of the population, commit 52% of the violent crimes? I don’t even know if that’s accurate - if not, then surely that’s the biggest problem with it. But if it’s true, then why is it a dog whistle? I’m not challenging you here, I’m trying to understand why it’s wrong to state it in this kind of context.

I think it’s more like... any race that endured systemic abuse and live with the limited opportunities will commit majority of the violent crimes. Specifying the race has a tendency to make people correlate the violence with race, which can lead to racism.

So, every race, then.

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Post by tomjakubowski »

whoevercares wrote: post #77
tartoran wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bully anyone at all?

Regardless how you wish, some people WILL bully some other people - it’s the animal side of human. I’d rather be a polar bear with a gun when that happens

What good is a gun if you don't have any thumbs?

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Post by tomjakubowski »

b9a2cab5 wrote: post #53
thereare5lights wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discrimination and racism against Asian Americans is something that gets flagged a lot on HN in my experience. But then again, discrimination and racism posts in general are something that gets flagged a lot on HN so it's not surprising.

Because anything that challenges the narrative and posits that diversity and inclusion initiatives are actually harming minorities (Asians) is somehow racist. For example, if I were to make a comment saying affirmative action is racism, my comment would get insta-flagged.

no it wouldn't, people make that argument on here all the time

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Post by nemothekid »

haram_masala wrote: post #87
nemothekid wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think it's constructive to talk about ideological motivation; It is. If you are going to label the problem as black-on-asian, I'd like to at least know what black people, specifically, are attacking asians. When the media uses labels about white supremacy it's usually because white mass shooters are usually ideologically motivated; they aren't killing people to steal money or eliminate competition, they are…

One proximal but surely insufficient explanation is that assaulting Asian people has become a trope in hip-hop over the past couple of years (e.g. “ling-ling boppin’”).

>assaulting Asian people has become a trope in hip-hop over the past couple of years (e.g. “ling-ling boppin’”).

It's hard for me not to believe you just made this up. "ling-ling boppin" doesn't return any Google results.

Secondly, a trend in hip-hop would be a trend in American pop culture. Hip hop, is currently the biggest music genre in America - if what you say is true I can't imagine how I would have missed it. A quick Google search doesn't mention anything from the top Spotify artists about it.

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Post by [deleted] »

haram_masala wrote: post #57
lambdasquirrel wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, let me try to explain. 1. Just like Asians have been the "model minority," Blacks are treated as the opposite. There's a lot of resentment going one way, and a lot of "what did you hit me for?" going the other way. 2. There's a lot of Asians (especially those from overseas) who don't understand the historical context, and aren't privy to empathy or compassion when they're being targeted. This dynamic isn't some…

I can’t speak to the other three points you made - though they sound reasonable and plausible. But divide-and-conquer is certainly being practiced in America today, both within ethnic communities and between them. It’s a nasty game orchestrated by the media and large corporations, and not fundamentally different than how it’s been practiced in other countries, like Rwanda and early Soviet Russia.

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