Apple charges commission for your paid application regardless of distribution form because there is only one and you have to use it, the AppStore. Shopify has an optional distribution platform for apps which they charge a fee for. You can distribute your app on your own and avoid the fee.
Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
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Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#102Why is it ok in software to pay a 20% - 30% commission? Imagine if your car dealer would ask an extra 30% Ok, ok I get it, it's not a physical product but still people get paid to work on it and develop it, and there are income taxes and all that, but really 20-30%?!?! If you sell a product chances are your profit margin is 20-30% and that it's good, but here in software we have to do a cut for 20-30%, well again 10%…
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#103I am a Shopify partner through 3 years, paying 20% of my revenue to Shopify, and every time I have been in contact with "partner support" it has been, to put it mildly, an underwhelming experience. You have to argue your way through an army of outsourced supporters who are equipped with nothing but the public Shopify docs, until you get to a real employee who concludes it with a "sorry, but we can't help". Some of my…
Why would any one use Shopify 20% instead of 3 -4 % of stripe? Sounds like Shopify is total rip off.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#104I am a Shopify partner through 3 years, paying 20% of my revenue to Shopify, and every time I have been in contact with "partner support" it has been, to put it mildly, an underwhelming experience. You have to argue your way through an army of outsourced supporters who are equipped with nothing but the public Shopify docs, until you get to a real employee who concludes it with a "sorry, but we can't help". Some of my…
Why would any one use Shopify 20% instead of 3 -4 % of stripe? Sounds like Shopify is total rip off.
As of now, the app pays for the mortgage, car payment and then some so I can't complain too much I guess.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#105I am a Shopify partner through 3 years, paying 20% of my revenue to Shopify, and every time I have been in contact with "partner support" it has been, to put it mildly, an underwhelming experience. You have to argue your way through an army of outsourced supporters who are equipped with nothing but the public Shopify docs, until you get to a real employee who concludes it with a "sorry, but we can't help". Some of my…
Why would any one use Shopify 20% instead of 3 -4 % of stripe? Sounds like Shopify is total rip off.
This is revshare of what the shopify partner bills the shopify store owner.
It's identical to apple charging developers a revshare of payments billed through the app store.
Not saying it's good here, just clarifying that it's not card processing fees, it's platform fees + billing fees.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#106I still don’t understand why people use Shopify. And on top of that people equate them to being the next Amazon. Boggles my mind.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, Tim Cook wants his cake and the Shopify CEO wants his cake too, so the hippocracy is expected.
Everything started to fall apart when the horses seized power
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#108But in an eco-system driven platform I don't think having a choice matters in the end.
If users are trained that the best place to install apps is through the app store and there's a huge marketing effort put in place by the app store that you can only trust apps from that store, etc., etc. then it almost doesn't matter if there's an alternative because users immediately associate non-app store apps as being very bad and should be avoided at all costs.
I don't use Shopify currently but I imagine the work flow for adding a new app to your store starts with you searching the app store for whatever type of app you want because it's built into the platform. Then you start narrowing down results based on demo videos, features and reviews until you find something you're happy with.
Going outside of the app store doesn't even come up because most app types probably have dozens of decent choices on the app store. Even if you decided to Google around most of the top hits will be apps from the app store because Shopify's SEO is very likely going to be better than yours.
The only way someone will discover and use your app outside of the app store is you have already have a massive following and trust that you're not a bad actor looking to do something shady by avoiding the app store (because this is what users are trained to think) and your app is leaps and bounds better than anything that exists on the app store so that users are willing to take the risk to go with your non-official app. That doesn't seem like it would happen very often.
Does anyone have a wildly successful Shopify app that's not on the app store?
To me this feels like an illusion of choice because yes technically you have the option but realistically the outcome is the same as having no option.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#109I am a Shopify partner through 3 years, paying 20% of my revenue to Shopify, and every time I have been in contact with "partner support" it has been, to put it mildly, an underwhelming experience. You have to argue your way through an army of outsourced supporters who are equipped with nothing but the public Shopify docs, until you get to a real employee who concludes it with a "sorry, but we can't help". Some of my…
Why would any one use Shopify 20% instead of 3 -4 % of stripe? Sounds like Shopify is total rip off.
- Seamless integration with the merchant billing system. I.e. free trial(s) are credit card up-front automatically, with zero friction for the user.
- "Free" marketing in the App Store.
- Access to paid advertising in the App Store.
Good partner support is just not one of them :)
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#110Why not setup store of your own ? and keep all your profite (minus stripe transaction fee)