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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by vvillena »

mikepurvis wrote: post #45
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

I can't find it listed on the website, but does it really not have a USB-C/Thunderbolt port? My XPS connects out to a dock via USB-C that then goes to two displays, one on HDMI and the other on displayport. I assumed this kind of setup was fairly standard, but that's awful if Intel is using their muscle to prevent it on non-Intel HW.

I'm writing this from a Ryzen-powered Thinkpad connected to a 4K display via USB-C. That Ideapad doesn't seem to support USB-C video output, so the probable reason is market segmentation. They probably want to make the people who want external displays buy a Thinkpad or a Legion.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by geogra4 »

ghostpepper wrote: post #64
justapassenger wrote: post #37

This is as clickbait as it gets. AMD is doing extremely well, but you need more data than sales from one random retailer, to claim they’re leaving intel in the dust.

If this article is to be believed, AMD is outselling Intel by five to one (84% of sales vs 16%). Somehow I think this would be bigger news than one person's post on Reddit (which is the "source" techradar cites as the basis for this entire article)

that may be true on retail CPU channels, but the vast majority of intel sales are to OEMs

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by wazoox »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28
wazoox wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've replaced my aging and failing 2013 XPS with a Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540, cheap and slightly bigger but has a second internal M.2 slot, SD card slot, RAM upgraded to 32GB, and full size HDMI and USB A connectors for less than 900€. I'm happy with the upgrade, even if this machine won't last as long as the XPS (though its full metal case is sturdy enough).

>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

I have no much use for a 4K display, I don't own any (I'm both myopic and old anyway). in fact for me the worst point is that it could have a 1920x1200 panel, but carries a FHD one instead, with a large useless black band below, too bad.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by pdpi »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #95
0x64 wrote: post #92

As far as manufacturing capacity goes, AMD's GPU and CPU manufacturing is incredibly constrained due to the sheer volume of console SoCs they have to pump out. I believe 80% of their N7 wafer capacity at TSMC is currently dedicated to console SoCs, the remaining 20% being dedicated to CPU and GPU dies.

Good problem to have from the perspective of AMD shareholders.

Both Sony and Microsoft were on a PowerPC base for the PS3/Xbox360 generation. Sony was on a MIPS before that. While there's definitely value in knowing you basically own the console market for the next few years, consoles have a much easier time jumping ship on architectures than PCs do, so having such a large portion of your revenue tied to two customers, both of whom are capable of jumping ship quite easily on the 4-5 year timeframe is maybe not great from a strategic point of view.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by fmajid »

toopok4k3 wrote: post #99
eloff wrote: post #24

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My old desktop is still a beast with a 10 core Xeon and 128GB of ram. I'm investing in a new rig to speed up my rust compiles. The current machine is 4 years old now, so I can afford to wait a few months for a build that will last me that long.

Do you actually get real RoI on that thing? Must have cost magnitudes more than normal desktop hardware. Or is this where you just accept that it's worth it purely for tingling the geek inside you?

A faster compiling machine is the difference between sustaining a state of flow critical to developer productivity, or not. Paying even $5000 for a desktop that yields probably a 2x improvement in productivity for someone paid at least $10K a month is a total no-brainer.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by wazoox »

bserge wrote: post #49
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

"AMD is for budget devices"... Sadly, that's what marketing says. I don't understand how these people have a job at big companies, or anywhere really lol XMG (Clevo/Schenker/Sager/Eurocom/etc) has the best Ryzen laptop I've seen yet, although I don't really like their quality: https://www.xmg.gg/en/xmg-apex-15

Yes I've looked at these ones first, but they were more expensive and I went the safe and cheap route with Lenovo.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by _Understated_ »

mox1 wrote: post #98
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good problem to have from the perspective of AMD shareholders.

Well...maybe. I'm sure they are leaving some revenue on the table short term here. I'm sure they make more $$ per unit on their Retail CPU's and GPU's.

There was a video the other day from Gamers Nexus[0] that explained that in the pecking order, the DIY builder/enthusiast community is down at the bottom of the list when it comes to orders... Microsoft and Sony are at the top, followed by the OEMs, then the builders. [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiZHYCN-vw4&t=1562s

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by wazoox »

mikepurvis wrote: post #45
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540 Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already. I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slo…

I can't find it listed on the website, but does it really not have a USB-C/Thunderbolt port? My XPS connects out to a dock via USB-C that then goes to two displays, one on HDMI and the other on displayport. I assumed this kind of setup was fairly standard, but that's awful if Intel is using their muscle to prevent it on non-Intel HW.

Unfortunately the USB-C is only USB 3.2, not Thunderbolt capable. It's not a thinkpad, it's sold as a "gaming laptop" that's why it's cheaper.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by badLiveware »

awiesenhofer wrote: post #87
91edec wrote: post #65

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Nvidia used samsung. Rumor has it that their shortage is because they sold their cards directly to cryptominers.

Is mining on GPUs still something people do? Or can be done anywhere near profitable? I got the impression with ASICs that game was up.

It's for ASIC resistant currencies I believe
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