Vitamin D improves survival in Covid-19 elderly patients

Post by raverbashing » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 7:20 AM UTC

waterheater wrote: post #68

Jabbles wrote: post #47

The important factors for Vitamin D are that it's cheap to manufacture and has well known (low) risks. We have reasons to believe that it might help fight Covid, especially in deficient individuals, even if we do not have controlled studies. Making it freely available and recommended for anyone who doesn't obviously get enough already is a reasonable strategy. It might not work - the correlation may not be causal. Bu…

One could make a similar argument, but you then run up against a major WHO policy document on public health measures to combat influenza, which states: "Ten RCTs were included in the meta-analysis, and there was no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza." and "According to the GRADE approach, there was moderate quality of evidence involving >6000 participants…

Post by smaryjerry » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:08 AM UTC

pulse7 wrote: post #93

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I think most places add it to milk. I supplement during the darkest six weeks of the year (which is starting very soon). It does seem like there could be a bigger seasonal push. Maybe not from the government but from somewhere.

I think this would be the best solution: to add it to the milk products during the winter! Most people would get it, there would be (almost) no public discussion about it and the immune systems would be strengthened. People not buying milk could still buy it like today!

Post by scandinavegan » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:17 AM UTC

smaryjerry wrote: post #103

pulse7 wrote: post #93

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I think this would be the best solution: to add it to the milk products during the winter! Most people would get it, there would be (almost) no public discussion about it and the immune systems would be strengthened. People not buying milk could still buy it like today!

This already is done year round. But there are a lot more vegans now.

Post by morsch » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 11:05 AM UTC

AntiImperialist wrote: post #77

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The only form of Vitamin D that matters is D3. If you are not getting that, you're just ingesting a toxin that is useless at best. You say this with authority (but no sources), but it does not appear to be true. D3 seems to be preferable, and more efficacious, but that does not mean that D2 does nothing. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d2-vs-d3 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22552031/ https://pubmed.ncb…

Vitamin D2 is produced in plants because they use that. Similarly, D3 is produced in animals because they use that. Supementation of D2 has no effect on how much D3 animals end up with. From your 3rd link: Total serum 1,25(OH)2D did not change significantly with either treatment (p>0.05, post-treatment vs baseline). From your second link: only 3 of 10 possible studies included in the meta-analysis were randomized, co…

Post by scythe » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 11:35 PM UTC

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>and they - as far as I can tell - do not explain why these people did not receive their normal Vitamin D supplementation Under subheading 2.2: "All residents in the nursing-home receive chronic vitamin D supplementation with regular maintenance boluses (single oral dose of 80,000 IU vitamin D3 every 2–3 months)," The comparator (not recent supplement) group was on a different schedule, and had received a supplement…

> Unless they were also testing these other interventions, that critique does not apply. How do we know they weren't? Since this is not a RTC, but rather an analysis of historical data, we don't know how much they divided up this historical data looking for correlations.