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Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by jccalhoun »

occamrazor wrote: post #88
swift532 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't they use Krieg or am I wrong / is this is just joke?

“Kampf” means “battle” and can also have, like in “Mein Kampf”, the metaphorical meaning of “struggle”. “Krieg” means “war”. E.g. WW2 is Weltkrieg 2, not Weltkampf 2. Having not played TWOM I don’t know which translates would be more appropriate. The GP is however most likely a joke (and not a bad one IMHO).

It about trying to survive in a city in a fictional country during a war (similar to the Yugoslav Wars). So I think that krieg is appropriate but I haven't taken German in nearly 30 years so I'm rusty!

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by gchamonlive »

thih9 wrote: post #99
gchamonlive wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Undertale is pretty intense. Spoiler at the end of the comment. Disco Elysium is a narrative masterpiece. Outer Wilds has the most balanced story/exploration loop I can think of. Baba is You because it screws with your brain nicely. Spoiler: -- when you realise your actions carry over across reloads

Note: Undertale gameplay spoiler in the comment above. Perhaps the author could edit the comment and add a warning?

This is true, I am sorry

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by Bjartr »

nix23 wrote: post #43
dubcanada wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ouch... Obviously going to ignore the rather aggressive undertone. I clearly missed something in the article so I reread it. There is nothing wrong with that. My comment was in reference to the guidelines, which clearly state > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."

That's why the question...2 Times? 3 Times more? I mean its not Peace and War or Dr Schiwago ;)

Don't be an ass

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by tester756 »

ceceron wrote: post #10

Interesting move. Sadly kids nowadays (at least in Poland, where I live) don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles. This may be a good way to bring some interest in the history via a genuinely entertaining medium.

> tend to skip even very important titles.

huh, I'm not shocked. The only book that I've found interesting out of those mandatory books was Ferdydurke ^^

>Gombrowicz himself wrote of his novel that it is not "... a satire on some social class, nor a nihilistic attack on culture... We live in an era of violent changes, of accelerated development, in which settled forms are breaking under life's pressure... The need to find a form for what is yet immature, uncrystalized and underdeveloped, as well as the groan at the impossibility of such a postulate – this is the chief excitement of my book."

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by Lev1a »

q3k wrote: post #36
ceceron wrote: post #10

Interesting move. Sadly kids nowadays (at least in Poland, where I live) don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles. This may be a good way to bring some interest in the history via a genuinely entertaining medium.

> don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles That's because the list of mandatory [1] reading in Poland is 90% haphazardly thrown together nationalistic martyrdom bullshit with terrible state-mandated interpretation. I used to _hate_ literary analysis, partly because of the works we were studying and how we were forced to interpret them. Then, years after leaving school I've discovered that…

In your neighbouring country Germany some of the entries for our 8th grade group reading and analysis project were:

- book about an anorexic girl (which IIRC was assigned by the lottery to the recovering anorexic girl in my class)

- book about a teenage boy falling in love with a drug-addicted girl and falling down into that swamp as well (names "Einbahnstraße" => "one-way street")

- some other books about adipositas and fat kids/teenagers hating themselves for being fat (IIRC some even contemplating suicide)

+ a bunch of other books in the same vein

Needless to say that was a very fun few weeks while presenting the books and their analyses...

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by diffrinse »

humaniania wrote: post #81

Playing "This War of Mine" was one of the most powerful and emotionally stirring experiences that I have ever had with a video game. It really is a beautiful work of art. Highly recommend playing it.

Whatever Happened to Edith Finch?

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by q3k »

Lev1a wrote: post #105
q3k wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles That's because the list of mandatory [1] reading in Poland is 90% haphazardly thrown together nationalistic martyrdom bullshit with terrible state-mandated interpretation. I used to _hate_ literary analysis, partly because of the works we were studying and how we were forced to interpret them. Then, years after leaving school I've discovered that…

In your neighbouring country Germany some of the entries for our 8th grade group reading and analysis project were: - book about an anorexic girl (which IIRC was assigned by the lottery to the recovering anorexic girl in my class) - book about a teenage boy falling in love with a drug-addicted girl and falling down into that swamp as well (names "Einbahnstraße" => "one-way street") - some other books about adipositas…

Our literature teacher did have some spare student-time to throw in some of her selected books (in 10th grade I think?), and one of her choice was ”Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo”. It was certainly a formative experience, so I kinda do envy the program you went through :).

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by wishinghand »

RangerScience wrote: post #67

This is amazing. There are other games of this quality and artistry, but IMO no other games with the kind of impact TWOM has. There's something special that happens when you play TWOM that isn't possible in other mediums. It manages to actually create circumstances where you feel like you're making hard choices. IMO, only two other games accomplish something comparable. Portal (as a masterpiece of gaming in every res…

I haven't played "Papers, Please" but I believe it has players consider equally hard problems in the vein of "This War of Mine" as well. If I recall correctly, you're given different criteria of things to look for every day, and something there's forgeries coming through and sometimes there's just honest mistakes. I think you're also timed and how many correctly documented people are let through ties to how much money you make, so you can starve to death waffling over whether someone is in compliance.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by 112233 »

RangerScience wrote: post #67

This is amazing. There are other games of this quality and artistry, but IMO no other games with the kind of impact TWOM has. There's something special that happens when you play TWOM that isn't possible in other mediums. It manages to actually create circumstances where you feel like you're making hard choices. IMO, only two other games accomplish something comparable. Portal (as a masterpiece of gaming in every res…

I played Photopia a few years after it was released, and I still remember the impact it made vividly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photopia

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Post by Lev1a »

q3k wrote: post #107
Lev1a wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In your neighbouring country Germany some of the entries for our 8th grade group reading and analysis project were: - book about an anorexic girl (which IIRC was assigned by the lottery to the recovering anorexic girl in my class) - book about a teenage boy falling in love with a drug-addicted girl and falling down into that swamp as well (names "Einbahnstraße" => "one-way street") - some other books about adipositas…

Our literature teacher did have some spare student-time to throw in some of her selected books (in 10th grade I think?), and one of her choice was ”Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo”. It was certainly a formative experience, so I kinda do envy the program you went through :).

I vaguely remember we had to read that as well but I don't exactly remember when that was during school.
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