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Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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This is amazing. There are other games of this quality and artistry, but IMO no other games with the kind of impact TWOM has. There's something special that happens when you play TWOM that isn't possible in other mediums. It manages to actually create circumstances where you feel like you're making hard choices. IMO, only two other games accomplish something comparable. Portal (as a masterpiece of gaming in every res…

Try playing Torment: Tides of Numenera.

It's like playing an epic. Wonderful world.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#83
post #79

This is amazing. There are other games of this quality and artistry, but IMO no other games with the kind of impact TWOM has. There's something special that happens when you play TWOM that isn't possible in other mediums. It manages to actually create circumstances where you feel like you're making hard choices. IMO, only two other games accomplish something comparable. Portal (as a masterpiece of gaming in every res…

I found Detroit: Become Human to be quite thought-provoking.

I'm glad to hear, but that's not a common opinion from what I've seen. Personally I thought it was clumsy and it felt like it wanted to be a movie more than a game.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#84
post #79

This is amazing. There are other games of this quality and artistry, but IMO no other games with the kind of impact TWOM has. There's something special that happens when you play TWOM that isn't possible in other mediums. It manages to actually create circumstances where you feel like you're making hard choices. IMO, only two other games accomplish something comparable. Portal (as a masterpiece of gaming in every res…

I found Detroit: Become Human to be quite thought-provoking.

Yeah, but it's a bit on the nose...

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#86
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to start a flame war over book choice but forcing kids to read the Bible, Homer's Iliad, and Shakespeare are probably what is causing such marked disinterest in the first place. There are so many interesting and valuable works of writing, fiction and non-fiction, that can captivate and entertain modern children that aren't unapproachable tomes translated from ancient, dead languages, or written in Iambic Pentamet…

I can certainly second the sentiment that having to read such titles results in hating reading. When in grades 3-5 I read about 100 (Admittedly easy) books per year on average. After that we had to read books for school and it almost instantly caused me to drop my yearly amount of books to 10 AT MOST. Now that I am out of school I read a lot more again. BTW: Shakespeare wrote plays, not books. So why force children t…

I was an adult by the time I was shown that his rhymes actually work, and the plays are well constructed and actually funny satires of society.

What the fuck, high school. Why? Why?

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#87
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If your town is mostly religious, mostly Christian, and the oversight mechanisms for something like this happen require a complaint to be filed, who is going to complain? As is the case in many of the landmark freedom-from-religion-in-schools cases, Christians. See, the thing is, America (and even most—but not all, sure—small towns in America) have lots of different flavors of Christianity, and they don't agree on…

You're missing my point. Generalizing any one instance of one school district and one Christian sect's objection to their curriculum to all of the US just doesn't work. While I was of school age it was still the TX state curriculum to teach creationism as equally scientific as evolution. Saying "It hasn't happened in [this place] or in [my town]" is not evidence that it happens nowhere.

I never claimed it didn't happen, and I never claimed my experience was representative of the entire country. I asked a question and relayed an anecdote.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#88

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Mein Kampf.

Couldn't they use Krieg or am I wrong / is this is just joke?

“Kampf” means “battle” and can also have, like in “Mein Kampf”, the metaphorical meaning of “struggle”. “Krieg” means “war”. E.g. WW2 is Weltkrieg 2, not Weltkampf 2.

Having not played TWOM I don’t know which translates would be more appropriate. The GP is however most likely a joke (and not a bad one IMHO).

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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post #10

Interesting move. Sadly kids nowadays (at least in Poland, where I live) don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles. This may be a good way to bring some interest in the history via a genuinely entertaining medium.

> don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles That's because the list of mandatory [1] reading in Poland is 90% haphazardly thrown together nationalistic martyrdom bullshit with terrible state-mandated interpretation. I used to _hate_ literary analysis, partly because of the works we were studying and how we were forced to interpret them. Then, years after leaving school I've discovered that…

Yes, same story in every country on the eastern European block which either creates nationalists for the ones who are okay with the material or makes students abhor literature analysis and even literature in general.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#90
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you consider very important titles?

I would say that non-fiction books, giving a view on the past errors in the human history, should be considered very important titles. "A World Apart" by Herling Grudzinski was the most important book on the lecture list when I was in high school. I'm happy to see that "Conversations with an Executioner" has been included in the list recently. Humanity tends to forget the bad times far too easily... Other than that,…

Yes but the current power structure doesn't want woke citizens, it's been proven that they are much easier to control this way (it's all from the Soviet propaganda playbook)
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