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Well China has banned FB Twitter, Google etc. a decade ago
Many countries have banned some or more services (especially uber and the like received many bans). But even if others didn't, it seems like a very weak argument to me.
It is absolutely foolish for any country other than China to allow TikTok within their borders. You might fairly ask whether or not it is equally foolish for non-US countries to use US services. I think that is also a reasonable question, and deserves reflection.
I'm not from the USA, but if I can choose if the USA, or China gets my data, I will choose the USA everytime. Sure, America does a lot of shady stuff, but the situation in China is just way worse in pretty much every way imaginable.
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There’s a quite a large difference between Google spying and China spying. When Google “spies”, users get more relevant ads. When China spies, people get into “Vocational Education and Training Centers” and other bad things happen. Chinese spying is like 10000 times worse in practice. But in theory, when dealing in absolutes, there is no difference, both are spies.
Let's be honest: Google has been known to be in bed with the NSA and other agencies as well. It's very disingenuous to pretend Google only serves you ads but has no relations to the US national intelligence community but Chinese apps do.
Yes, both countries are definitely spying on people via social media apps. But what they're using it for is different.
Is TikTok doing revenue sharing with the content creator?
If so, then this ban is just going to smack these American end users in the face.
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Let's be honest: Google has been known to be in bed with the NSA and other agencies as well. It's very disingenuous to pretend Google only serves you ads but has no relations to the US national intelligence community but Chinese apps do.
If you have some references to confirm your theory about Google and NSA, please share a link. Otherwise it is just ZOG theory. Also, the statement about “being in bed” is very vague and non informative.
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I'm not sure that a foreign company has any rights under the constitution to begin with. It's contentious whether or not it grants rights to a foreign citizen while they are outside of the US's borders, so claiming that ByteDance would have their constitutional rights violated by such a ban would be even more so. However, if this were to happen, it would almost certainly be under national security law, which has pret…
> I'm not sure that a foreign company has any rights under > the constitution to begin with. Would that be this foreign corporation that is incorporated in the checks notes State of California? https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=03... (Yes, I know this is a company owned by the Beijing based ByteDance but that’s not immediately disqualifying of this US corporation run under US law being able to…
Having set up a corporation on US soil does not grant free pass to a foreign government to spy on US citizens.
Did anyone analyze the traffic sent out by this app and found something not-nice?
Yes, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tiktok-lawsuit/tiktok...
Case in point, almost all apps on my Android phone snoops on my "personal information"; Google literally knows where I am all the time; Facebook SDK snoops on the apps I use, and justify the collection of the data with "better personalization of services"; WhatsApp (owned by Facebook) vacuuming contacts off my phone; LinkedIn snoops on my clipboard etc.
What would it mean to "ban" an app? Would they force Apple and Google not to distribute it? Would they set up a national firewall?
Just ask the app stores to ban them. The US couldn’t do anything more sophisticated right now, and that would solve most of their concerns.
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Just ask the app stores to ban them. The US couldn’t do anything more sophisticated right now, and that would solve most of their concerns.
Has there been any precedence of US banning an app/website without some clear violation of law?
Had TikTok originated in the US and been bought by a foreign company, The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States could have ordered the foreign company to divest itself of that asset. An example was Grindr being purchased by Kunlun Tech, and CFIUS deciding that this wasn't allowable. --The idea being that the type of data Grindr has could pose national security issues (due to government employees or elected officials being blackmailed, not that Grindr has ever been known for any form of security).
With TikTok, however, it seems to be more about posturing. I'm not sure what legal mechanism they could really use to force the app to be blocked.
nobody cares really about TikTok, it's childish thing, but amount of data WeChat harvest is ridiculous and it honestly stops Chinese abroad from integrating with locals, if they keep communicating again just with Chinese within WeChat. if they were forced to use proper international apps with E2E encryption they could discuss whatever they want without sacrifing privacy
I see it here, you have local Chinese living in EU still talking in WeChat groups under control of Chinese government which knows every word they talk