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Says the USA... "You can trust us, we don't listen on your foreign leaders". Come on, that ship has sailed years ago.
It was US government agencies, not private companies who were spying. So, to clarify, other countries can use US private company services, but should not blindly trust their secret data to the US government.
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This is a national security issue.
To be crude, I don't think someone in China seeing my TikTok videos is a national security issue. This interference with the free market is about politics, not security.
Leaving aside mechanisms and policies, this is not about seeing videos, this is about the invasive amount of information TikTok collects from devices it runs on.
It is absolutely foolish for any country other than China to allow TikTok within their borders. You might fairly ask whether or not it is equally foolish for non-US countries to use US services. I think that is also a reasonable question, and deserves reflection.
It's not equivalent, but I am certainly wary of having my data handled by US companies that aren't big enough to be scared of GDPR. My phone number and email address spread to many more American marketing lists than European ones, even though I rarely visit. Many of my Facebook ads result from my yearly visit to American cities. I just can't trust American businesses to use my data for the intended purpose only.
In that one comment, you have explained everything anyone needs to know as to why most of the tech innovation originates in the US and not from within Europe, and also why this situation is probably never going to change.
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To be crude, I don't think someone in China seeing my TikTok videos is a national security issue. This interference with the free market is about politics, not security.
> I don't think someone in China seeing my TikTok videos Leaving aside mechanisms and policies, this is not about seeing videos, this is about the invasive amount of information TikTok collects from devices it runs on.
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It was US government agencies, not private companies who were spying. So, to clarify, other countries can use US private company services, but should not blindly trust their secret data to the US government.
USA has a track record of issuing a request for info (if not other shadier methods) tied with a gag order. So... and if the Snowden/Wikileaks/ATT room 641A has taught us anything (combined with the 5-9-14 eyes), is that we cannot trust any government when it has enough power to spy on its people. IT DOES. Major difference between USA, UK, France, Spain, Sweden etc. Vs Russia, Iran, China, Turkey, North Korea is that…
Did anyone analyze the traffic sent out by this app and found something not-nice?
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This is a national security issue.
To be crude, I don't think someone in China seeing my TikTok videos is a national security issue. This interference with the free market is about politics, not security.
Did anyone analyze the traffic sent out by this app and found something not-nice?
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The US government almost certainly doesn't have the power to do that. (It's not tremendously clear how they'd even be able to ban Tiktok; they'd have a hard time getting Apple and Google to take it off the app store and an impossible time convincing Internet providers to block it.)
Since the beginning of the "tensions" with China people keep pushing the same key: "the government cannot do this, they don't have the authority, the constitution blah". And every time they have been proven wrong, as Trump has established travel bans, restricted visas, put people in concentration camps, imposed tariffs, and who knows what they will do next. People that keep pretending that freedoms are not eroding ar…
Am I missing something here? What are you referencing? I'm not sure I understand.