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Re: Firefox 78

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Post by executesorder66 »

jeltz wrote: post #32
ChrisSD wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask why it's considered "ugly" now but wasn't before? Isn't it just a few pixels bigger?

No, it is smaller so that is not the issue. The old completions used to use up the full width of the browser window. I can't exactly put my finger on it, but I suspect that the proportions are just slightly off.

The dropdown takes up less horizontal space in the new version. But in the new version the URL bar itself becomes obese with unnecessary padding whenever you click in it. And that is was a lot of people hate about it.

No other input field becomes fat when you click on it. It is enough to just highlight the edges like the old version (And like every other input field) when you want to indicate that the input field is currently active.

Re: Firefox 78

#102

Post by Karunamon »

Nextgrid wrote: post #97
batsoupremacy wrote: post #52

one of the reasons why i love firefox? the Tracking protection. it makes webpages faster to load. Cool

Firefox's Tracking Protection is a fraud and has a whitelist of domains to allow, which include Google and Facebook properties despite them being the biggest threats to privacy.

Which would break Facebook and Google login for a massive portion of the web (since those buttons are usually embeds). If you want to block them yourself, fine, but it's not the browser maker's job to make that decision for the user.

Re: Firefox 78

#103

Post by executesorder66 »

Tagbert wrote: post #79
askjdlkasdjsd wrote: post #70

Hate to be cynical, but I feel like they're just releasing a new one every week just to stay in the news.

They are on a 6 week release cycle. Every 6 weeks they release the changes that are ready. Sometimes the changes are large, sometimes small. Over time, rapid releases tend to get new features out sooner than delayed releases. Don’t get hung up on the version number. It doesn’t mean this is a major release, it is just the 78th release in a series.

They changed it to a 4 week release cycle.

Re: Firefox 78

#104

Post by emerged »

impassionedrule wrote: post #80
msclrhd wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have that in your history, you can highlight that entry in the search results (e.g. using the up/down arrow keys after typing "weather") then press Shift and Delete to delete it from the history. If you don't want search results, you can go to the options/preferences, select search, and uncheck the "Provide search suggestions" option.

This key combo doesn't work

It doesn't work for me either. It comes up as a solution whenever I try to solve this particular problem but it doesn't work for some reason.

Re: Firefox 78

#105

Post by ancarda »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #54
viraptor wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> reason that DevTools are better in Chrome still doesn't stop one from using Firefox for all other general browsing It doesn't even stop you from developing with FF. DevTools were completely usable for years and unless you need very specific functionality, FF is just fine.

I personally think that FF dev tools are better that Chrome. Every time that I'm forced to use Chrome Dev tools, I get confused.

Firefox's dev tools is a large part of why I switched back from Chrome. I just couldn't figure out how anyone is productive with Chrome's dev tools!

Re: Firefox 78

#106

Post by xpe »

chrismorgan wrote: post #82
snide wrote: post #25

I recently tried to move to Firefox (again). I try to to this every couple years. I run into the same three blockers every time. 1. The omnibar completion isn't as good. Chrome figures out where I go pretty regularly, and autocompletes extremely well based upon habits. 2. The dev tools aren't as good. I mostly work in the frontend, and simple things like how you write css overwrites with tab completion is just not as…

1: as you’ve said, the quality of such completion depends on habits ; if you’re just shifting to the browser, it doesn’t have the full details with which to do good completion. 2: strongly disagree; I use Firefox, and on the odd occasion where I’m doing something in Chrome, it drives me insane with things like its CSS editing experience, because it does things in what I find to be a much less native-feeling way, wher…

Re: DuckDuckGo, I like to use !s to delegate to StartPage.com which relies on Google but provides a more private experience (according to StartPage themselves, which I have not investigated much).

If you have comments on !s vs !g, I'll all ears. For example, I have wondered, to what degree does the "extra" hop: (a) help my privacy; (b) affect DDG's revenue stream; (c) affect the results.

Re: Firefox 78

#107

Post by satori99 »

noisy_boy wrote: post #92

I am a pretty ardent Firefox supporter and prefer it over Chrome but some of the issues are still jarring and really affect the user experience. E.g. this 10 year old bug which I still have to deal with multiple times every month where if you have couple of windows open with one having pinned tabs and close the other one first, the pinned tabs are not restored upon restart: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?i…

Oh wow, I hate this one so much.

I try to avoid opening multiple FF windows because I always close the wrong one last.

Re: Firefox 78

#108

Post by emptysongglass »

akerro wrote: post #11

Pocket is great and totally deserves more promotion. I know this will trigger a lot of people saying it's spyware, I used to think that too, but then I embraced it and it's great for bookmarking, syncthing tabs, reading news as podcasts on mobile etc. It's great.

Pocket is great but people need to start holding their feet to the fire: it's been 3 years and Mozilla still hasn't open-sourced the codebase, as they promised they would. [1]

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/02/27/mozilla-acquires-po...

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by mxschumacher »

shultays wrote: post #72
mxschumacher wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google would not allow Mozilla to do this

How? Do you mean they would cancel their search deal? Does Google have any power over Mozilla?

If past revenue numbers are any indication [0], then Google as a lot of power of Mozilla.

They are privacy focused, so I suppose they don't make money through the sale of personal data; also their services are free. Unless there is some other revenue source I'm missing, there seems to be a significant dependency on search engines and similar partners.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Google

Re: Firefox 78

#110

Post by abmobi »

Firefox has slowly crawled back into my daily workflow of development as well as general browsing with the 67.0 release mid last year or so, that brought in major performance improvements.

Though there is one caveat that bothers me a lot. When auto restoring sessions after I've closed Firefox and launch it the next day, it restores the same tabs, but with the old data (for eg., youtube or twitch live channels / searches). Every tab needs to be refreshed manually to get the new data, which Chrome automatically does.

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