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Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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What's your alternative, since there isn't any, except to completely change your industry or business model? iOS users are known to pay for apps they like. Android users less so.

You've made up your mind then. Bite down hard, because that whip's coming.

> Bite down hard, because that whip's coming.

You're thinking of a whip, I'm thinking of another implement

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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> That's why I've ditched all of my Apple hardware and went 100% FLOSS years ago. The experience is polished enough for me as a developer to do what I need to do and after I set it up just the way I wanted it, no other setup can touch how productive I am on my Arch setup. For the majority of users, this is irrelevant because linux is unusable for them. And they are the customers. To have a sustainable business, we ha…

Selling software to users? Did you time travel from 1999 or something?

Try doing any of the following to professional level with a web app:

- sound editing/musical production

- video editing/special effects

- CAD/CAM/EDA

- Mechanical/physics/electrical simulations

- interfacing with custom hardware

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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TestFlight has its limitations, unfortunately. It is not a distribution platform, it is not intended to be active for longer than 90 days without updates and should not be monetized https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#bet... I encourage you to read through the entire AppStore guidelines, there might be more sections that apply to Apple's decision to terminate the account I didn't read through all…

You can’t monetize an app in test flight. All purchases are fake and collect no money. This argument is bullshit. I know a bunch of apps that have been in TestFlight for ages, and they’re all up and well.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

#104

And Apple is not even an isolated case. Google will close gmail accounts, take away adsense revenues, or remove youtube videos on a whim. Visa blocked users from giving their money to political causes they decided didn't aligned with their view of the world. For years Microsoft made it super hard to buy hardware without paying the Windows licence. They killed xbox remotely. They have invasive telemetry in Win 10. Pay…

I had about 12 domains once and decided to park them as I was busy, set them all up on adsense, went to all the domains to make sure they all worked, a couple I refreshed a few times as it wasn't working properly. The next day I got an email saying my adsense was closed for 'fake views / clicks', no way to challenge it or anything. That was like 10 years ago. I still can't use adsense to this day.

seems like an easy option for Google would be to set a blocklist of IPs for generating revenue, including the IP used to create the account. Users could add others with the big scary label of "prevent us from banning you, list IPs here that you use" that defaults to your current IP.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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This kind of post infuriates me. As an iOS developer for 10 years, i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed. It's now so bad people are refraining from trying out innovative business model or apps just because they think there could be a chance someone at apple validation wouldn't li…

Exactly, this is why I vote with my wallet and don't buy Apple products. Apple's hardware is perhaps only marginally better than the competition's, which by the way is much richer in choice. Developers should look further than Apple. It is better for the profession. Remember: developers : Apple == taxi drivers : Uber

...and then not complain when they can't distribute to Apple users.

All these whinging developers seem to have forgotten that they made an agreement with Apple which included:

"10. Term and Termination. Apple may terminate or suspend you ... at any time in Apple’s sole discretion."

Don't like the terms, don't sign the contract. I learned that the hard way at the age of 19, it wasn't in tech, it was a housing contract, but I learned my lesson:

Before you agree to anything with legal standing, read it and reread it. Understand it, and if you don't seek help to get that understanding. Once you understand the terms you have to make a choice to agree or walk away. Then you have to live with the consequences.

This is the basis of legal justice (as it stands) and much of society relies on it.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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post #75

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What's your alternative, since there isn't any, except to completely change your industry or business model? iOS users are known to pay for apps they like. Android users less so.

The alternative could a webapp. But this all depends on what hardware access you need. In the end it is a choice of business model. Taking the risk of making money while being dependant on one party (Apple, Youtube) is always a huge risk.

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Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your alternative, since there isn't any, except to completely change your industry or business model? iOS users are known to pay for apps they like. Android users less so.

The alternative could a webapp. But this all depends on what hardware access you need. In the end it is a choice of business model. Taking the risk of making money while being dependant on one party (Apple, Youtube) is always a huge risk.

Users won't pay a one time fee to use a webapp and theres no infrastructure to do this. Maybe paid up front apps are a dying business model anyway and everything will be subscription based in the future. Theres also just a whole lot missing from PWAs right now, even on Android where they're at least somewhat supported.

Edit: Just to clarify I'm not bashing PWAs I've developed a lot for both the web and iOS and consider myself fairly mercenary, I will jump ship to other tech if need be. But there is still quite a way to go[0] and it's going to be hard to get these companies to agree on some of these standards. I'm also conscious of the fact that PWAs may just replace one dictator (Apple) with another (Google).

[0] https://whatwebcando.today/

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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And Apple is not even an isolated case. Google will close gmail accounts, take away adsense revenues, or remove youtube videos on a whim. Visa blocked users from giving their money to political causes they decided didn't aligned with their view of the world. For years Microsoft made it super hard to buy hardware without paying the Windows licence. They killed xbox remotely. They have invasive telemetry in Win 10. Pay…

>Visa blocked users from giving their money to political causes they decided didn't aligned with their view of the world.

That is why I am absolutely against abolishing paper cash.

Edit: I know there are countries where you have a democratically elected representatives and every part of the government and even companies is held ( more or less ) accountable to the people and does not need to worry ( much ) about big business or government taking over some basic right. Yes cashless in that case is great. Is like utopian.

Unfortunately not everyone has that luxury.

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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And Apple is not even an isolated case. Google will close gmail accounts, take away adsense revenues, or remove youtube videos on a whim. Visa blocked users from giving their money to political causes they decided didn't aligned with their view of the world. For years Microsoft made it super hard to buy hardware without paying the Windows licence. They killed xbox remotely. They have invasive telemetry in Win 10. Pay…

I have this horrible feeling that you'll soon buy the government you want; Amazon or Facebook Gov is a terrifying idea: "do you want to add on the international development budget for £14.99 per month". I wonder if it would be better than what we currently have?

You have just inspired me. I've always wanted a political fiction to try and write in my spare time, this sounds perfect :)

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Apple’s decisions in the last 5 years are causing more and more of my developer friends to move away. Bringing back the escape key on the MacBook Pro won’t change that.

If Apple were not years behind PWA integration, switching to a PWA instead of native app might be an option. But this is sadly not in Apple’s interest.

I wonder how many people will choose Android over Apple in the future because of PWAs. I can imagine there will be a flood of useful PWAs, freely to use and only fully working on Android, not Apple.

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