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Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by tossAfterUsing »

javert wrote: post #98
solotronics wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Creating the Federal reserve bank closed the loop. The politicians and corporations are able to control the whole system of money/power independently of what any outsider wants. Print the money, give it to your friends, buy/create the politicans, make the laws, enrich yourself, repeat the cycle but with more power and wealth this time around.

The vast majority of corporations are victims, too. Some of the giant ones are not, though.

Wish this were more well understood.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by kibblesalad »

xenospn wrote: post #79
shadowgovt wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of the laws discussed in this article, the FBI can gain access to the logs of one's ISP (or VPN provider) without a warrant. So they can trace a suspect's TCP traffic without any duty to notify anyone they're doing so.

I'm wondering how that helps them out, exactly? All they see is HTTPS requests to iMessage/Reddit/HN or WhatsApp. They can't look inside the actual payload.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/legal-loopholes-unrestrained-n...

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by waffle_ss »

techntoke wrote: post #64
wchar_t wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But criminals still need to be imprisoned, free country or no.

I wish this were the case, but they seem to disproportionately lock up African Americans while giving the rich white people a free pass on crime.

According to National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) numbers, across all races - African Americans included - the arrest rates for violent crimes correlates with the actual amount of crime committed by that race.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by ancarda »

goatinaboat wrote: post #71
Jah6Aihe wrote: post #9

Here is what I do myself to avoid surveillance culture, in case anyone find it useful. 1. I always use local apps rather than webservices if possible. I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it (I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet). There's almost always a way to perform a task locally. 2. I have a copy…

I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet Ironically this is very easy on W10 and OSX. But you can do it on Linux with AppArmor.

Wait how is this easy on macOS? Do you mean with Little Snitch? Or is there something built into the OS?

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by ancarda »

Jah6Aihe wrote: post #9

Here is what I do myself to avoid surveillance culture, in case anyone find it useful. 1. I always use local apps rather than webservices if possible. I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it (I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet). There's almost always a way to perform a task locally. 2. I have a copy…

>7. I use my own local dns resolver.

Does that provide a usable amount of privacy? It doesn't seem like it would given your local BIND instance would have to talk to DNS servers on the Internet -- over plaintext -- and so would reveal your lookups anyway. I never bothered with a local DNS stack because I felt it wasn't worth the effort. Can someone say if I've missed something?

Caching / performance seems like the only real benefit to me.

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EDIT: >4. I made myself a rss client similar to rss2mail

By the way, is this open source? I wonder if you could document some of your setup along with guides / links to software you use in case others are wanting to adopt some of your techniques?

I really am a bit impressed and would like to try some of these!

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by JoeSmithson »

specialagent wrote: post #49

At one point in time, we used to universally celebrate people like Professor John Raines, who broke into FBI offices to steal documents related to COINTELPRO. He 'evaded capture' and was an American hero. [0] Yesterday, Judicial Watch published the DoJ's release of the electronic communication from 7/31/2016, where FBI agent Peter Strzok opened Crossfire Hurricane. [1, 2] Despite the magnanimity of the disclosure, th…

I have only skim read the linked documents but what aspect specifically do you feel is being under-reported?

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by shadowgovt »

dvtrn wrote: post #92
shadowgovt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"America has been over" is a statement that needs qualifiers to have meaning. "America" means different things to different people.

"America" means different things to different people. Well there's one qualifier right there. The American Mythos of "all men are created equal" has failed to line up with the American reality for quite a long damn time and for reasons that don't require much more effort to "qualify" than is needed to lift up an arm and point at a history book. It's been qualified, documented and analyzed thoroughly enough that the q…

If that's the criteria, America never started. That line was penned when Americans still kept other human beings as slaves.

The long arc of history of the US bends towards that phrase becoming more true, but there's still a long way to go for everyone to be demonstrably accepting of it.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by trfhuhg »

This is fine. Humanity has been descending into materialism to develop intelligence for long time and is now crossing the midpoint. That's why there are so many "ends justify the means" types around us. Soon the humanity will start ascending back to finish the cycle and all those sociopaths will be gone.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by Zooper »

wchar_t wrote: post #57
nabnob wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not act like the United States was a shining example of freedom and democracy before WWII, either. Slavery, destroying indigenous people and taking their land, followed by oppressive laws targeting black and indigenous people... Liberal democracy is definitely a step forward from monarchy, but the freedoms it offers have always been built on the oppression of many. It's no surprise that the oppressive arm of im…

Not to mention how "imbeciles", African Americans, and other "misfits" were forcibly sterilized in the years after 1900.

It's ongoing, and the US has had cases brought against it as recently as 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#U.S._.... While the more recent cases are less overtly abject evil, they aren't the activities of what I'd call a free or even humane nation that has any right whatsoever to claim that the spread of its governance is an ethical good.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by shadowgovt »

ravenstine wrote: post #88
shadowgovt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"America has been over" is a statement that needs qualifiers to have meaning. "America" means different things to different people.

It does mean different things to different people, but there's a relatively common understanding of "America" as an idea. Interpretations of America generally have a lot of overlap, even if there's some difference. Our rights are pretty much a central pillar of the concept of America, and if they aren't inalienable or taken seriously, then America is fundamentally lost. Even if people have a different idea of what Am…

I agree an objective viewpoint is possible to find, but any conversation about "America being over" needs to start with confirmation that the speakers have agreed upon an objective viewpoint.

Decontextualized, the fundamental rights Americans celebrate are at odds with each other (right to life and right to liberty are the obvious examples, and some good criteria for discerning how to maintain those in coexistence has been established, but others, like "Freedom from fear" or "Freedom from want" and "Right to liberty," are much, much murkier. And this is all, of course, in the context of an ever-changing world that brings new technologies and experiences that must be interpreted against those rights).

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