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Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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Maybe "products" are actually bad when they lock you into an ecosystem like the company Steve Jobs headed does.

I typically hear the categories as feature, product, platform (aka ecosystem). Apple is a platform/ecosystem. Dropbox is a feature/product, but definitely not a platform. In SV, "just a feature" has a derogatory connotation, sort of like "lifestyle business". It causes people who run feature companies to try to get away from this characterization – even if it means stretching their business into something that it can…

Yeah, you've accurately explained how Silicon Valley culture can ruin companies that would be completely sustainable otherwise. Thanks!

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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Dropbox has slowly but surely gone from a product I enjoyed and recommended to one that I actively dislike using. I find it pretty astonishing that such a mature product: - Is slow - Demolishes my MBP's battery - Has not gotten simpler to use And worst of all, it is completely out of line with what their competition are charging. They want $12.50-15/mo for their most basic plan when their competition is charging $0-1…

I have been trying to move to iCloud as well, though unfortunately theres still no Android app for it till now

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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Dropbox has slowly but surely gone from a product I enjoyed and recommended to one that I actively dislike using. I find it pretty astonishing that such a mature product: - Is slow - Demolishes my MBP's battery - Has not gotten simpler to use And worst of all, it is completely out of line with what their competition are charging. They want $12.50-15/mo for their most basic plan when their competition is charging $0-1…

For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software In all seriousness, have you looked at OneDrive + Office365? For $70/year you get 1 TB of storage, a client that works on all platforms, plus M…

What if you want more than 1 TB?

I've not found any option to purchase more storage for a non-business Office365 account.

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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The most interesting use case for Dropbox is enabling cross-app workflows on iPad. Most apps support the Dropbox APIs now. Apple needs to get its shit together and make iCloud the back end. They can mandate that apps support their APIs, and then iCloud gets more revenue.

Smart idea considering they did the same with “Login with Apple ID”.

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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Steve also said "There’s no better mobile computing tool than your finger"... Now they're rolling out mouse support on the iPad.

Mouse support on iPadOS is explicitly an accessibility feature. It's pretty awkward to use and not what you'd choose if you have a choice.

I’d even call it intentionally designed to be bad, because they don’t want you to use it. Which is the opposite of what the parent comment is implying. They have the ability to port over the full Magic Mouse/Trackpad drivers from macOS with intuitive scrolling and gestures, but they chose to leave them broken and awful to use.

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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I typically hear the categories as feature, product, platform (aka ecosystem). Apple is a platform/ecosystem. Dropbox is a feature/product, but definitely not a platform. In SV, "just a feature" has a derogatory connotation, sort of like "lifestyle business". It causes people who run feature companies to try to get away from this characterization – even if it means stretching their business into something that it can…

Yeah, you've accurately explained how Silicon Valley culture can ruin companies that would be completely sustainable otherwise. Thanks!

For the record, I think both of these derogatory connotations are crap, and I run a "feature" startup myself. Fortunately, we don't need venture investment since we're running breakeven. Even with issued patents and paid licensees, it's nigh impossible to find VCs interested in a feature company.

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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Dropbox has slowly but surely gone from a product I enjoyed and recommended to one that I actively dislike using. I find it pretty astonishing that such a mature product: - Is slow - Demolishes my MBP's battery - Has not gotten simpler to use And worst of all, it is completely out of line with what their competition are charging. They want $12.50-15/mo for their most basic plan when their competition is charging $0-1…

> once iCloud launches file sharing As an iPhone and MacBook user I'd have happily done that iff it was useful or accessible to my friends and family who are not in the fruit company ecosystem (and that's the majority in my case). Because I really don't think Apple is going cross platform anytime soon https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204174 https://support.apple.com/kb/ph2609

You just posted a link for how to setup iCloud on Windows.

I agree that support on other platforms hasn’t been great.

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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“Dropbox always works, everywhere.” This used to be true, but has gradually become less true. Linux support has certainly taken quite a dive. They also removed features I really liked. I used the Public folder a lot :( (I actually used to pay for Dropbox, because I genuinely thought it was a great product. It’s still probably one of the best syncing services, but at this point I’ve just moved off of syncing services.…

Yes, this. Them ending support for ecryptfs filesystems (they used to support it) is the main reason I'm considering ending my subscription soon. They took a massive step backward there and I am not happy about having to move my entire Dropbox directory to an unencrypted part of the filesystem.

They rolled back those changes - they support quite a few filesystems again now. See the Linux section of https://help.dropbox.com/installs-integrations/desktop/syste...

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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Steve Jobs was early, but not wrong about Dropbox being a feature and not a product. I just want a folder that syncs extremely reliably, that's it. They've gone down the corporate rabbithole and now call themselves a "smart workspace" whatever that means.

Maybe, but a feature that works is worth more than a product that doesn't. Dropbox always works, everywhere. I'm old enough to remember a world pre-Drobox (and pre-high bandwidth). I used to work at different places. I kept a laptop in each office, and carried with me Iomega disks that I synced every morning. It was slow and complex and error-prone. Alternatives from either Apple or MS will never work as well, they w…

Microsoft has been supporting the Mac since 1985. I doubt very seriously that it will be dropping support for OneDrive for iOS or macOS in the foreseeable future. MS has been quick to support new relevant APIs as they are introduced by Apple.

Re: Dropbox CTO Resigns

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It’s very hard to have solid product, engineering, marketing, sales, and support on any scale without taking VC money.

Backblaze and Basecamp have, to name two.

Backblaze does have one VC backer, but they aren’t pushing for exponential growth.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21016598

They are cash flow positive though.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21006216

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