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Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by futureastronaut »

maxaf wrote: post #92
futureastronaut wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you see something - say something. Please know that you've been brainwashed into thinking this way. You're even repeating the mantra verbatim. No, I will not willingly become a part of the surveillance apparatus. There is no justification for that degree of vigilance in peaceful times. Edit: Flagged into the void, it's an HN thought crime! Have a good weekend all!

But you are willingly an enabler of child molesters. Gotcha.

Good point, I hadn't even thought of the children.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by willis936 »

mc32 wrote: post #11

This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…

This was my first thought too.

The story in the Deus Ex video game series is starting to seem less ridiculous and impromptu, and more like a piece of prophetic media.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by 0815test »

mynameishere wrote: post #62
febeling wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. He has motive for suicide, too, though.

And the motive would be...he swore a blood oath to commit suicide once he was caught. It was either that or an ordinary political murder. The idea that this guy killed himself out of despair or whatever is an unbelievable laugh. He was psychologically a reptile.

I don't think we can know this for sure. He was definitely a sex predator, quite possibly a sociopath, but to call him a psychopath with a 'Reptilian' emotional structure seems like a step too far

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by rdtsc »

If he was suicided, it was very well done, and a message sent to everyone who is involved. The message is "if you betray us, we will find and kill you even while you are on suicide watch in jail".

Epstein just didn't seem like a guy who would have a guilty conscience and decide he couldn't handle all any more.

I looked a bit into his case, mainly prompted by articles like these:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20576530

There made the point of connecting Brin to Epstein and other SV tech people, but then Clinton didn't show up to his dinner party once. Hmm. It seems to me like there is a deeper connection to the Clintons since they are going out of their way to distance his from Epstein with such awkward articles.

I guess, maybe those who feel brave enough should see if the prison warden or one of the guards on duty ends up getting some scholarships or trust funds for their children. Or one of them suddenly pays off a large chunk of their mortgage.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by berrynice »

It may be a good idea to watch out for cops and guards from that prison suddenly 'buying businesses', making other large and successful investments, receiving expensive gifts and/or gaining large amounts of wealth. My current theory is that Epstein had a bounty on his head and was killed by a cop or guard, it's often case that prison 'suicides' are in fact covers for police brutality gone too far, so I think this is the most likely scenario.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by [deleted] »

hbosch wrote: post #97
SHAKEDECADE wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To play devils advocate; who doesn’t want to protect themselves and that which they’ve worked for? From the poor who’ve worked hard for the past year to save up for engine for the late 70s truck. To the middle(ish) class who’ve worked hard for their first purchased two bedroom home. To the middle upperclass who’ve gone on a vacation to Branson Missouri. To pretty much everyone with children. To the ultra wealthy that…

Nice. Now play devil’s advocate to explain why it’s actually good to be involved in a global pedophilia ring.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by faissaloo »

joshgel wrote: post #82

Paraphrase from someone I saw on Twitter (can't find now): Most people have already jumped to the conclusion that he was murdered. That's child's play for conspiracy theorists. The real conspiracy theory is he faked his death!

Both are fairly likely, but one is easier to pull off than the other.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by fencepost »

I was expecting to see conspiracy theories due to the assorted powerful and wealthy people Epstein has been linked with, but really think about it. He was a wealthy man who lived a pampered lifestyle and had largely escaped consequences for his actions in the past but was unlikely to do so in this case. He was looking at spending the rest of his life not just in prison but as something of a pariah in prison (wealthy, privileged, child abuser). He'd attempted suicide previously and if that was an attempt on his life he had ample opportunity to say so.

As far as the suicide watch, sure he was high profile but he was in jail awaiting trial and there are probably plenty of people put on suicide watch. The jail doesn't have the resources to monitor everyone 24/7, and frankly regular checks are probably plenty to catch or prevent most attempts.

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