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That does not make sense at all. The KKK is not a foreign government sending its members to foreign colleges to censor students who are lawfully protesting in their own country. If Chinese students are offended by what other college students are protesting in their own country, they can do what everyone else does, ignore them.
Do you have evidence the students were sent by foreign governments? Where is your claim coming from? From your imagination?
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#102The violent pro China protestors should be kicked out of Australia. If you violently push your pro authoritarian views in your democratic host country, they have every right to kick you out.
Hot take: or maybe they should be charged with some kind of assault and tried according to the Australian laws? But no, you're right, let's get the pitchforks and torches and have them all 'git out of our 'country!
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#103This infuriates me. Intimidation and hostile attitude towards people protesting in a different country is an act of barbarianism and should be condemned internationally. In fact, the way to combat this is to further enrage, fearlessly protest the PRC patriotic machine and "poke" the hornet's nest so to speak. I've taken the pledge to never visit China and avoid Chinese goods because of shit like this. The PRC has a s…
>avoid Chinese goods because of shit like this. Wie bitte??? This hurts you far more than it does China. Use systemic, not individual, actions instead (insofar as you can). Vote for political admins likely to respond to Chinese human rights violations, support protest movements, etc.
It is an irrational emotion driven thing for me. It is sort of like not going to a particular amazing popular restaurant just because the service isn't good - it hurts me by not going to the restaurant and enjoying their incredible food but it becomes a matter of principle.
Gandhi protested the British by spinning up his own yarn and making his own clothes, it is the concept not the objective ROI of his decision to not buy British-made goods.
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#104> They held the event, they caused everything... they tried to make us angry.
Brainwashed dictatorship proponents are blaming those who oppose dictatorship for their own aggression. How classy.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
> socially awkward to opt out random aside, there was a kid in my Texas high-school who stopped saying the pledge around the time of the 2003 Iraq war. While I didn't necessarily agree with the method, a few of us did appreciate the fact that he did that; it showed that sometimes the most patriotic thing you can do is not blindly support your government.
Texas even requires parental consent on opt out, so the kid had to have a good support network.
Random q: where were you based in China?
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#106Is HN exactly like Boomer Facebook now? What's with this "kick them out of the country" rhetoric? If people are assaulting peaceful protesters, arrest them, charge them, try them, and punish them according to the law. It's literally right there on camera. But no, please continue inciting outrage and controversy. China bad. Hong Kong good.
I think it's a fair question to ask whether or not people should be allowed to stay in the U.S. after demonstrating toxic behavior. In case you didn't read the article, these students are using violence and doxxing personal information of protestors:
> One of their friends was also "doxxed" - personal information including his passport, marriage certificate and student ID details were posted online. "Don't worry, there won't be a peaceful life for him in Brisbane," read an accompanying caption on Chinese social media platform Weibo.
Is this the kind of behavior that you would allow from a visitor to your home?
EDIT: Some shady down-voting going on in this thread. Not sure what else I expected with a politically-volatile topic like this one but it just goes to show that people don't care about discourse - they just care about feeling right.
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#107Is HN exactly like Boomer Facebook now? What's with this "kick them out of the country" rhetoric? If people are assaulting peaceful protesters, arrest them, charge them, try them, and punish them according to the law. It's literally right there on camera. But no, please continue inciting outrage and controversy. China bad. Hong Kong good.
>Is HN exactly like Boomer Facebook now? What's with this "kick them out of the country" rhetoric?
This is complete false equivalence. No one in this thread is calling for all Chinese to be expelled from Australia or nonsense like that.
>If people are assaulting peaceful protesters, arrest them, charge them, try them, and punish them according to the law. It's literally right there on camera.
This is exactly what people are calling for. If you are convicted of a serious crime you can be expelled from the country. Some people feel they should be. Perhaps you disagree, but you're saying the exact same thing.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think Americans are going to hate their country after reading about MKUltra? How about solitary confinement? WMDs in Iraq?
> Do you think Americans are going to hate their country after reading about ... Yes, this commonly occurs in fact. Americans trash their own country aggressively, routinely all over social media, for its flaws and past mistakes. See: Twitter, Reddit or Imgur comments every day of the week. We pay sports athletes and celebrities tens of millions of dollars and they regularly trash the US for its flaws and past mistak…
A small minority of Americans do that and when talking about large populations, it goes without saying that we’re not talking about population distributions in an absolutist sense.
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#109I spend vacation time working at an academic summer camp for 11–year-olds. My hall typically includes some students from China.
This year, one of my Chinese kids mentioned that he frequently used a VPN to get around China's firewall. This made another one of my Chinese kids quite upset: "You broke the law? How could you?"
The argument got somewhat heated, but I didn't intervene because I legitimately wasn't sure what to say. On one hand, yes, within the context of an 11-year-old's worldview, breaking the law is bad and should be avoided. On the other hand, China is an authoritarian regime attempting to suppress free access to information, and everyone should work around that however they can.
I've been replaying this in my head quite a bit, and I'm still not sure what I should have done.
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#110A 'peaceful' protest is allowed then a 'peaceful' protest to your protest should also be allowed. If anyone broke the law, there are polices. Do you guys not believe in Australia polices and judicial system? Then protest against them. I believe in australia you have this freedom, right? Speaking louder in public place is not breaking any LAW.
Can you show me where someone said that the counter-protesters broke the law by "speaking louder in public places"?
This is entirely about the counter-protestors violently attacking the protestors.