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Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#101
post #64

ISTR that the avionics code is written in Ada, and runs on top of Intel i960 processors, and that the Ada compiler for that target only runs on VAX/VMS (not even OpenVMS, but specifically VMS on the VAX).

ISTR? Anyway, the processors in the F-22A are a mix of different cores. The power supply in the Gen 3 radar used a MIL-STD-1750A processor. The PICC[1] processor modules also used the MIL-STD-1750A originally, but moved to a newer processor in a refresh (if I remember correctly). I don't know what the non-Raytheon components of the plane were using. As for the compiler, you are spot-on. We had a MicroVAX in a vault (…

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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#102
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DOORS the standard tool for requirements management that combines the worst technologies IBM has to offer in order to provide you with a way of entering hypertext into a database. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOORS

Oh of course it's a "Rational" product

The makers of many point and click puzzle games disguised as development tools.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#103
post #69

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https://i.imgur.com/EN0ZkXU.png (sorry)

This is not Reddit. I know because I am often confused myself.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I searched but couldn't find where it says no jokes.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#104
post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

Defense contractors are similar to other companies that (strongly) do not believe that software is their product and do not value it any further than that it is a small component in the large system they are delivering. There's a lot of old-school attitudes still present: for example, I've heard software developers referred to as "software typists" a number of times. Basically there are two entirely different paths h…

> Basically there are two entirely different paths here. For example, the person who writes all the software to drive the cockpit displays is probably called something like a "cockpit avionics engineer" and is organizationally in the department that's responsible for building such things.

I don't know how Lockheed organizes, but I assume it is similar to Raytheon. Raytheon had a matrix organization where the rows are functional groups (e.g., software engineering, digital electronics engineering, RF engineering) and the columns are program teams (e.g., radar power supply, radar antenna, radar signal processor). The title you describe would align with a program group, but your "official" title would come from your functional group (which would be software engineering in this case).

> These people can get paid very well.

In the absolute. For software engineers, it's pretty average. I was writing some pretty cutting-edge embedded signal processing software when I left Raytheon in 2012, and I was getting paid $85,000/year with 9.5 years of experience. Based on my trajectory, I would have been at around $120,000 now had I stayed. This was in Dallas, so it was good money compared to the COL, but I could have made slightly more at just about any other larg-ish employer in the area. That said, I both sucked at and hated the internal political games at Raytheon, so perhaps I could have done better if those weren't true.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#105

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I'll bite. What is DOORS and how can I specialize in it to put my skills in high demand?

part of the IBM suite of bullshit job creation tools https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSYQBZ_9.5.2/...

Along the same lines as their FileNet product? If you are in an interview and hear "FileNet" run. Just get up, and run a way, as far and as fast as you can.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#106
post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

If you just look at salary comparison websites you will think the two have comparable salaries. 10 years of dev experience will put you in the 130k range before cost of living bumps. But FANG gives a lot or even most of the compensation as something besides salary.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#107
post #13

I think all engineers with VAX experience are extinct ...or retired.

I also have VAX experience, but definitely not in recent decades, and I am neither extinct nor retired. Still look back at how some aspects of VAX/VMS were so much better than what followed. Aware that Windows NT was written by Dave Cutler as a (poor) clone of VMS. Also looked up some stuff about running VMS cluster nodes on a Raspberry PI setup, interesting view of how things were.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#108
post #73

Modern is relative. F-22's first flight was 1997. F-35 development started in 1992, first flight of X-35 was 2000 and F-35's first flight was 2006. There is absolutely noting wrong with using old technology. Being modern just for the sake of being modern is wasteful.

Faster development time? Lower energy costs? Cooler? Faster?

It's a supersonic air superiority jet. The amount of energy needed and heat generated is a rounding error compared to the heat from supersonic flight and the powerplant's output (base fuel burn of thousands of lbs an hour).

In the case of war birds, newer technology does not mean faster development time. In order to qualify electronics for a weapon that needs to be stealthy and resistant to electronic warfare you need decades of operational data on all of the major electronics components. Any system that gets upgraded to newer technology has to go through risk assessments and that often requires tons of data collection before you even get started.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#109
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like: "We ended up hiring the guy most competent at MS Word at the expense of everything else, because out of the five requirements it was the only one the managers doing the interview knew anything about". "Johnson! We're promoting you to head technical flight operations. We can't believe the level of your MS Word skills!" "Senator, we have no idea why the F-22 inexplicably crashed. That software was designed b…

More like: The guy that designed the flight control surfaces of the F-22 did so using an elaborate Excel spreadsheet powered by 4,000 lines of uncommented VBA filled with aerodynamics equations, and he retired 3 years ago.

This happens.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

#110

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You're reading the job description all wrong...you've got to think like a hiring manager in the defense industry to make any sense of it, i.e. reverse qualification priorities and the actual job you'll be hired to perform will become crystal clear.

AS a Systems Engineer in the Defense industry I completely agree. It is only because we talk about a maintenance role that DOORS doesn’t come on the list with Word.

DOORS is probably the reason I can't go back to the Aero industry. It still haunts my dreams. I would rather work on maintaining Excel VBA scripts rather than go back to DOORS. DXL was a goddamn nightmare.
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