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Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by bigiain »

dotancohen wrote: post #14
aosmith wrote: post #2

Here's the backstory: http://web.archive.org/web/20100310163744/http://www.stsc.hi...

The way that the fine article was worded, it seems that the engineering team knew that they needed approximately 1.5M LOC before they has started. How could they have known that? Or is it simply poorly worded? > The ATF Team planned to develop approximately 1.5 million source lines of code, across more than 20 software development companies located throughout the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

Somebody had a development budget, they looked up how much software developers cost, and how many lines of code per day they write, and BINGO! we have a contractual business requirement for ((budget + 20%) / dev-day-rate * LOC-per-day) lines of code.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by mhh__ »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #38
jabl wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In one of the documentaries about the Vulcan raid on the Falklands (1982), one of the pilots interviewed remarked that somebody flying Avro Lancasters in WWII would have felt right at home in the cockpit of the Avro Vulcan. E.g. the navigator used mechanical clocks to keep track of when to turn, and so on. Not sure if this was a conscious decision wrt EMP, or was it just that they were in a hurry to develop a jet bom…

Not in the least surprising. The Vulcan prototype, the 707, first flew in 1949. They even had a mount for the old Lancaster bomb sight - though that was mostly used for a camera. Flight engineer and radar operator in the seats behind would have got the fancy new (for the early 50s) electronic things.

The Lancaster was loaded with the technology of the time by the end up the war e.g. they had radar navigation, radio navigation, (when it worked) a 'lock' detector for German night fighter radar

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by wumms »

anyfoo wrote: post #23
butteroverflow wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess storing all those 1's also adds some weight. It costs on the order of antimatter if you think of it. What's it like, $50 million per 1 billionth of a gram, or so?

The only storage medium I can spontaneously think of where 1s are heavier than 0s is punch cards. I hope that is not the current primary storage method in the aerospace industry.

Nit-pick: 0s (no hole) are heavier than 1s (hole).

http://www.punctum.com/interest/punch/index.en.html

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by bigiain »

proy24 wrote: post #13

I think all engineers with VAX experience are extinct ...or retired.

Or very much not admitting to it ever. Like their Cobol experience. cough

(I write Pascal for an obsolete VAX11/780 in around 1985... I wrote COBOL in a WANG VS in the mid 1990s. No _way_ am I ever gonna let recruiters or employers know any of that...)

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by chrisco255 »

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus.

• Experience in COMM and Navigation.

• Avionics experience

• Experience with aircraft operations.

• Microsoft Office

I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by makach »

chrisco255 wrote: post #45

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus. • Experience in COMM and Navigation. • Avionics experience • Experience with aircraft operations. • Microsoft Office I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

I, absolutely, positively reacted to that requirement as well! What a wonderful addition to the qualification requirements!

Maybe 1/5 is enough for someone to apply? Makes you wonder what superhuman will get the job.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by dvdbloc »

metaphor wrote: post #26
proy24 wrote: post #13

I think all engineers with VAX experience are extinct ...or retired.

Hope you're prepared to swallow; I can think of several dozen young engineers across 5 states (California, Indiana, Florida, North Carolina, and New Jersey) with VAX/OpenVMS domain expertise, myself included. Legacy systems with 30-year lifecycles are a thing...they're just not what most of commercial industry is accustomed to supporting. If you think LM would have an issue filling this position internally (for the r…

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can command high salaries? Or have I been misled that LM pay is on the lower side? Or is it all relative?

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by metaphor »

chrisco255 wrote: post #45

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus. • Experience in COMM and Navigation. • Avionics experience • Experience with aircraft operations. • Microsoft Office I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

You're reading the job description all wrong...you've got to think like a hiring manager in the defense industry to make any sense of it, i.e. reverse qualification priorities and the actual job you'll be hired to perform will become crystal clear.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by DrStalker »

anyfoo wrote: post #23
butteroverflow wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess storing all those 1's also adds some weight. It costs on the order of antimatter if you think of it. What's it like, $50 million per 1 billionth of a gram, or so?

The only storage medium I can spontaneously think of where 1s are heavier than 0s is punch cards. I hope that is not the current primary storage method in the aerospace industry.

Some storage systems work by holding a charge, and electrons have mass.

In practical terms it night as well be 0 but in silly discussions on the internet terms it's a very small non-zero value.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by lokimedes »

metaphor wrote: post #48
chrisco255 wrote: post #45

Basic Qualifications: • Bachelor's degree in Engineering, Computer Science or related technical focus. • Experience in COMM and Navigation. • Avionics experience • Experience with aircraft operations. • Microsoft Office I love the MS Office req at the end. "Yes, we see you've got a BS in engineering, you're an expert at avionics and COMM control systems, but do you know anything about MS Word?"

You're reading the job description all wrong...you've got to think like a hiring manager in the defense industry to make any sense of it, i.e. reverse qualification priorities and the actual job you'll be hired to perform will become crystal clear.

AS a Systems Engineer in the Defense industry I completely agree. It is only because we talk about a maintenance role that DOORS doesn’t come on the list with Word.
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