I'll just hope this Huawei debacle will be the spark that burns the patent and copyright systems to the ground.
Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Precisely why it was important to make it illegal to do business which such an entity, Huawei. US business relies of trademark, patent, contract and license enforcement, which is where the government steps in. The Chinese gov't doesn't abide by any of these rules, nor do they enforce them, and subsequently Chinese companies are run the same way. That's not even getting in the espionage and the links between Huawei an…
Seriously? I view this as just government sponsored corporate extortion. I can't believe there's a different view to it. Because the government could have stepped in for so many other issues but they cherry pick the one that will blow a competitor to US brands out of the water.
> Seriously? I view this as just government sponsored corporate extortion.
Which government are you talking about? I'm assuming the Chinese (?), but you left it unclear.
Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Chinese government can order Huawei to do basically whatever it wants, and the former has so far shown no qualms about doing as much espionage, corporate or otherwise, as it can get away with. Infrastructure is one threat, smartphones are another.
It appears now that the US government can order Google, Qualcomm, Intel, and even non-US companies like ARM to do basically whatever it wants, and has shown no qualms in the past about spying on their European allies. From the a non-American POV the US does not have a clear moral high ground.
No villain wants to be the victim of another villain.
Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if Huawei handsets in Europe are not a threat to national security, most consumers would expect them to be able to run Android, which Google can no longer sell them...
I wonder why would Huawei bother buying android from Google instead of just using it, or respect any patent for that matter. If USA refuses to play with Huawei why Huawei should play with USA?
1) Android was an example. There are many components in a phone.
2) Much of the margin/profit comes from sales in international markets. For example, the EU. Where WTO-wise, copyright and patent rights still hold.
Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which US, android-reliant phone manufacturers are there?
It used to be that Samsung would also be safe because South Korea is a major strategic ally of the US, but with the US using steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada and a tariff on all Mexican exports, strategic allies aren't even safe.
that's pure propaganda
Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#106It's nice to see the government picking winners and losers in the market.
Precisely why it was important to make it illegal to do business which such an entity, Huawei. US business relies of trademark, patent, contract and license enforcement, which is where the government steps in. The Chinese gov't doesn't abide by any of these rules, nor do they enforce them, and subsequently Chinese companies are run the same way. That's not even getting in the espionage and the links between Huawei an…
Historically the US didn’t abide by any of these rules either, importing and copying European IP. With China developing further you’ll see them more and more enforcing these rules especially against developing countries.
For espionage you don’t even have to go back in time.
Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Chinese government can order Huawei to do basically whatever it wants, and the former has so far shown no qualms about doing as much espionage, corporate or otherwise, as it can get away with. Infrastructure is one threat, smartphones are another.
It appears now that the US government can order Google, Qualcomm, Intel, and even non-US companies like ARM to do basically whatever it wants, and has shown no qualms in the past about spying on their European allies. From the a non-American POV the US does not have a clear moral high ground.
Every government can order any company in their country to do whatever it wants. That's fundamentally how government works.
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#108Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Chinese government can order Huawei to do basically whatever it wants, and the former has so far shown no qualms about doing as much espionage, corporate or otherwise, as it can get away with. Infrastructure is one threat, smartphones are another.
It appears now that the US government can order Google, Qualcomm, Intel, and even non-US companies like ARM to do basically whatever it wants, and has shown no qualms in the past about spying on their European allies. From the a non-American POV the US does not have a clear moral high ground.
You're assuming the US government cares if a non-American thinks it has the moral high ground. I would be shocked if any decision maker ever considered that before making a decision.
Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
It used to be that Samsung would also be safe because South Korea is a major strategic ally of the US, but with the US using steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada and a tariff on all Mexican exports, strategic allies aren't even safe.
that's pure propaganda
I am currently wondering what the US reaction will be to the UK, should we refuse to fold to their current demands regarding not only Huawei, but also the demands to change our laws in order to create a more US friendly regulatory environment.