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Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by otaviokz »

agumonkey wrote: post #74
DevX101 wrote: post #56

The long term impact of this Huawei dispute will be China building out a complete vertical communications/computing stack from low level chips to operating system to phone design. They won't get any market share in the U.S. but they'll dominate China (obv), India, Africa, and have some decent minority share in Europe. The ban is great for U.S. companies in the short term that are behind on 5G, but this will harm U.S.…

I thought Europe was frowning hard on huawei too

What news do you read? From here it seems quite divided.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by zwaps »

klez wrote: post #85
hellofunk wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Huawei is blacklisted due to US’s economic war The trade war is not why this company, in particular, is blacklisted.

At this point I have to start doubting anything I read so far, then. What is the reason?

Ip theft and cirumventing sanctions.

To see no relation to the trade war is, however, a tad naive.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by darkmarmot »

My company, roughly 400k employees and contractors, already sent security notices from the DOJ banning Hauwei, ZTE, etc. devices across the entire corporation. It effectively banned their phones from a not insignificant percentage of the population in one fell sweep.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by mycall »

DevX101 wrote: post #56

The long term impact of this Huawei dispute will be China building out a complete vertical communications/computing stack from low level chips to operating system to phone design. They won't get any market share in the U.S. but they'll dominate China (obv), India, Africa, and have some decent minority share in Europe. The ban is great for U.S. companies in the short term that are behind on 5G, but this will harm U.S.…

> The long term impact of this Huawei dispute will be China building out a complete vertical communications/computing stack from low level chips to operating system to phone design.

Correction, this has been China's plan all along. This skizm is just speeding up the process.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by yourbandsucks »

zwaps wrote: post #92
klez wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I have to start doubting anything I read so far, then. What is the reason?

Ip theft and cirumventing sanctions. To see no relation to the trade war is, however, a tad naive.

Like you say, it's allegedly entirely about the iran sanctions.

In practice, it's clearly a trade war thing and I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that there was a personal thing between Huawei's loudmouth CEO and our vindictive president.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by mycall »

mistermann wrote: post #89
vkou wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name me one major US company that does not have close links to the US government. Name one. As for the IP angle, what evidence do you have that Huawei in particular built their 5G, or phones off IP theft? I postulate that as soon as China passes the US in development of new IP, the US will find no shortage of excuses to politically interfere in the market... Just like it is doing now, actually.

What do you mean by "close links"?

Maybe top government Corporate executive revolving door.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by scotty79 »

ci5er wrote: post #18
ETHisso2017 wrote: post #13

Remind me again how Huawei smartphones in Europe are a threat to US national security

Even if Huawei handsets in Europe are not a threat to national security, most consumers would expect them to be able to run Android, which Google can no longer sell them...

I wonder why would Huawei bother buying android from Google instead of just using it, or respect any patent for that matter. If USA refuses to play with Huawei why Huawei should play with USA?

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by DevX101 »

mycall wrote: post #95
DevX101 wrote: post #56

The long term impact of this Huawei dispute will be China building out a complete vertical communications/computing stack from low level chips to operating system to phone design. They won't get any market share in the U.S. but they'll dominate China (obv), India, Africa, and have some decent minority share in Europe. The ban is great for U.S. companies in the short term that are behind on 5G, but this will harm U.S.…

> The long term impact of this Huawei dispute will be China building out a complete vertical communications/computing stack from low level chips to operating system to phone design. Correction, this has been China's plan all along. This skizm is just speeding up the process.

Sure, but access to the U.S. market could have been used as an incentive to ensure data security globally.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by scotty79 »

mistermann wrote: post #87
ulfw wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly it. The US is shooting itself in the foot. Because the message this sends to the bigger world is: don't get too successful or we will kill your business. The irony is that that is exactly what western companies blame China for.

> The US is shooting itself in the foot. This is one possible outcome. Another is that China learns to be a bit less self-serving and more cooperative with the rest of the world. > Because the message this sends to the bigger world is: don't get too successful or we will kill your business. That seems like a bit of a biased interpretation. Do you believe the US is literally trying to kill Huawei, or might it be possi…

> Another is that China learns to be a bit less self-serving and more cooperative with the rest of the world.

Because they have such a great example given by USA to follow.

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