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Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by pjmlp »

product50 wrote: post #75
novaRom wrote: post #68

I don't know how is it in US, but in Europe recently Huawei is very successful and growing. All big smartphone stores have now special tables with Huawei show-cases, lots of TV Ads.

"was" Without Google, users will just shift over to Android. Agreed Huawei's phones are good but are they as good for users to not care about GMail, YouTube, Play Store etc.? On top of that, will users trust an OS by a Chinese company?

The same way we as Europeans, have to trust an US company, foreign to our countries with its own agenda.

So if this comes to US versus the world, maybe Android or Google services wouldn't be that relevant, long term.

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by karambir »

disiplus wrote: post #22
rqs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could go one step further: Build another open source OS that can run Android app but not Android. Many Chinese companies already tried it (non-open source though) before but been persuaded not to, I guess they're feeling a little bit different now. The good part is, by building that OS, the domestic tech communities could receive a huge boost. So far for Huawei, Google's blockage is partly useless. As long as Huawe…

as somebody that bought an huawei device from a carrier, if carriers wont sell your devices you are just like dead. and i cannot imagine carriers selling devices that need to sideload google play and stuff.

No, you are not. I believe you are just speaking from US perspective. A lot of countries in the world don't have this practice of carrier selling phones. (I know for sure for India and China and that's more than 2.5billion people)

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by yoz-y »

nightfly wrote: post #6
firekvz wrote: post #2

Of course, where else they gonna get money from

In the US Huawei has a tiny market share, and worldwide only about 8%. http://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/united-... http://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile

In Europe Huawei is pretty huge at around 29%

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by qxcbr »

josteink wrote: post #90
MihailBurduja wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not Google/Intel/Qualcomm's fault.

His point is that not a single end-user in the world is going to care about that when their $500+ Google-powered device stops working. Ultimately, this may erode trust in US-based tech companies in general, which for the long game may play into Huawei's advantage if they manage to come up with a viable competing platform.

Maybe Average Joe won't care, but he's informed about what is actually happening, and he should care and take his decision based on that. The fact that he's proud of blaming the wrong party is not something to be applauded.

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by luckylion »

deesep wrote: post #96
gonvaled wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fundamental issues surrounding China 2025 What are those issues? Why is the goal of advancing your local industries frown upon? Why is the US in the business of telling sovereign countries what they should produce, buy or sell?

Nothing wrong with the goal of advancing ones local industries. Competition is good, but only if it's fair. China uses and copies a lot of western technologies yet puts a lot of restrictions on western countries that want to do business in China. To get access to their huge market certain businesses are required to share their intellectual properties with the Chinese. Is that fair? Kawasaki Heavy Industries shared th…

> Nothing wrong with the goal of advancing ones local industries. Competition is good, but only if it's fair.

Are you suggesting it's unfair to have a National Security Agency with the explicit goal of industrial espionage to help domestic companies?

Let's not pretend that the US doesn't do that, please.

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by andygates »

throw20102010 wrote: post #21
dx034 wrote: post #7

So how long will it take until Asian Phone companies using Android get together to develop an alternative Android ecosystem? They could set it up in a neutral nation with profits going to all companies. So far, these always failed because it was only one company involved (e.g. Amazons app store) but will all major manufacturers involved, it would be much more profitable for developers to be on that app store than on…

Most Chinese versions of Android are completely de-Googled[1]- no Play store, no Maps, no GMail, etc. They have their own app store, web browser, and everything else. They are still based on Android, but it's not a stretch to think that most Chinese phone manufacturers could fork the open source project tomorrow. As soon as Google goes too far against the Chinese government, the manufacturers will receive a notice th…

(Insert obligatory OpenStreetMap plug here.)

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by novaRom »

product50 wrote: post #75
novaRom wrote: post #68

I don't know how is it in US, but in Europe recently Huawei is very successful and growing. All big smartphone stores have now special tables with Huawei show-cases, lots of TV Ads.

"was" Without Google, users will just shift over to Android. Agreed Huawei's phones are good but are they as good for users to not care about GMail, YouTube, Play Store etc.? On top of that, will users trust an OS by a Chinese company?

Or maybe it's time to enable anti-monopoly laws?

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by andygates »

generic_user wrote: post #36
bad_user wrote: post #23

And this is the danger of having so much power concentrated in a single country. Google might not want to do this, but they might need to, because they are a US company. Unfortunately this affects everyone. Why should Europeans care about US’s trade wars? And don’t get me wrong, I would never buy Huawei devices because they are made by a company owned by a communist party, but that’s my choice to make, not that of so…

The fundamental issues surrounding China 2025 which has prompted a shift in trade posture between the United States and China affect every other developed manufacturing nation in the world. Including Germany and the rest of the EU Nations. Just because the EU has not gotten publicly involved does not mean that they are not involved privatively in negotiations. Europe along with Japan, Korea etc have the luxury to sta…

Meet the new hegemon, same as the old hegemon.

"Let them fight"

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by andygates »

emptyfile wrote: post #52
v7p1Qbt1im wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It‘s not like it was their choice to make. Intel, Qualcomm, etc. are doing the same. The US and Chinese government are to blame. Edit: Quite possibly Windows will not receive updates on Huawei laptops anymore.

As a European customer I couldn't care less if Martians were to blame... simply put I won't ever put a penny in Google's pocket if they brick my phone.

That's why they're not bricking any phones.

"No more updates" ain't bricking.

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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Post by duxup »

dx034 wrote: post #7

So how long will it take until Asian Phone companies using Android get together to develop an alternative Android ecosystem? They could set it up in a neutral nation with profits going to all companies. So far, these always failed because it was only one company involved (e.g. Amazons app store) but will all major manufacturers involved, it would be much more profitable for developers to be on that app store than on…

Why would they want to as it is just Huawei?
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