Google to push new ads on its apps

Post by m-p-3 » Wed, May 15, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

simongr3dal wrote: post #97

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I really, really, really wish there was serious competition to Google Maps. That's the one Google product I've had to repeatedly come back to because there's nothing even close in terms of functionality available for Android. I was hoping Here WeGo would be an alternative, but it's kind of a joke. I'd install Apple Maps if I could. I'd trade in my Pixel for an iPhone if it didn't mean losing real Firefox, NewPipe, an…

What about having "real" Firefox is the important part? Is it supporting Mozilla, or supporting browser engine diversity, or is because real Firefox has more checkmarks on caniuse.com?

Post by ClassyJacket » Wed, May 15, 2019, 3:17 AM UTC

zuron7 wrote: post #92

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Aaaaand none of that matters. Not many people enjoy sitting there, mapping stuff, so openstreetmap is not going to get any better without corporations contributing to it like they do with Linux kernel. Lawsuits doesn't matter much as well - with Google's power they can either: - Afford a settlement, bunch of them - Make the litigation to take long-long-long time - Lobby for some law to protect them. Nobody ain't gonn…

OSM has better data in certain aspects. The big problem with OSM is not about the data, but that it isn't designed to be used as a map. When someone visits osm.org, it is very barebones and the search feature doesn't work very well to find places unless you know the syntax. The team working on OSM themselves say that OSM is not a map, but instead a database. Anyway, Google would never have gotten the data that it has…

Post by airstrike » Wed, May 15, 2019, 4:17 AM UTC

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If you are on android you can block ads entirely by setting a private DNS provider, and using one that blocks ads. For IOS you can use a VPN to do the same.

iOS has native support for ad blocking services; no need for a VPN. I've been using the Privacy-centric blocker service provided by Firefox Focus.

Post by microdrum » Wed, May 15, 2019, 4:19 AM UTC

i_am_nomad wrote: post #6

Despegar wrote: post #2

This is "break glass in case of emergency" levels of desperation.

Why would Google be desperate, though? They are hugely cash positive, have enormous cash reserves, and essentially no competition outside of China.

Post by shostack » Wed, May 15, 2019, 5:22 AM UTC

microdrum wrote: post #107

i_am_nomad wrote: post #6

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Why would Google be desperate, though? They are hugely cash positive, have enormous cash reserves, and essentially no competition outside of China.

Now that they've used DBM, DFP, and AdExchange to cement their U.S. ad monopoly, they can only get more growth by shutting down the flow of money to the rest of the internet. So they need more inventory of their own to compete with that of their clients' (e.g. other websites that use Google Analytics, DFP, GCP, AdWords, etc). I would love to see an estimation of the hundreds of billions of dollars wasted by companies…