What kind of tools are used to create API Docs like this?
I made a dev-focused SaaS and struggle to find a good way to document API's directly via the codebase, so that code changes can be reflected automatically in the docs.
Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
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Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couldn't they have written exactly the same things, taking inspiration ?
There is a UUID they use in a example that is 1:1 copied. > For example, the number of random version-4 UUIDs which need to be generated in order to have a 50% probability of at least one collision is 2.71 quintillion [...] This number is equivalent to generating 1 billion UUIDs per second for about 85 years, and a file containing this many UUIDs, at 16 bytes per UUID, would be about 45 exabytes, many times larger th…
I agree, that's what I meant. Are directly copied tokens enough to justify a lawsuit? There isn't a direct copy of any other content.
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#103You blew it. By posting this article and getting to the top of Hackernews you may have alerted their attention and they may rapidly change everything to not seem like copyright infringement. Then you might have weak or no claims.
The C&D letter mentioned in the post probably already alerted them.
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep! Just check out our docs: https://smartcar.com/docs/ Would love any feedback you may have!
How is it possible?
You will need additional hardware in the car to achieve this. Smartcar just does a really thorough job of hiding this fact.
AFAIK the is not a single car manufacturer (not even Tesla) that has any API available. Most cars don't have internet connectivity anyway.
Disclosure: I do NOT work for Smartcar, but have build multiple backends for P2P carsharing and bike rental platforms.
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#105"Expecting the world to be fair with us because we are fair, is like expecting the lion not to eat us because we didn't eat him" - Paul Graham
I am no Paul Graham, but I think you are wasting your time. Let's say you win the case next Tuesday and the judge miraculously orders them to shut shop. They dissapear on Thursday. Then what?
You still wake up next Friday with 99% of the problems (and opportunities) you had, before you "came across Otonomo’s publicly available API documentation" a few days ago.
If there's still a little voice inside your head that's sayin - Paul Graham didn't say that, you are missing the f*ing point. Start over.
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you do it? Just using Google on various phrases? Are you checking for your customers our on your customers? If the latter, why do you care (most vendors wouldn't).
> How do you do it? We have a team of people that exhaustively search for players in the same space. The 'Google on various phrases' is more or less the gist of it, the more unique the better. It's not an automated process so fairly time consuming. > Are you checking for your customers our on your customers? We do not check on our customers, we check for our customers. And usually pre-investment. > If the latter, why…
Thanks for clarifying! I'm still confused as to why a vendor would check on a customer or care if they're infringing.
I sell a SaaS reading product and don't care what my customers are using it to read, or whether their own websites our products contain any infringing content.
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#107In this case hate the game and the players.
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#108Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20190422150111/https://smartcar.... (And a reminder to donate to archive.org if you can!)
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Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#109"Expecting the world to be fair with us because we are fair, is like expecting the lion not to eat us because we didn't eat him" - Paul Graham I am no Paul Graham, but I think you are wasting your time. Let's say you win the case next Tuesday and the judge miraculously orders them to shut shop. They dissapear on Thursday. Then what? You still wake up next Friday with 99% of the problems (and opportunities) you had, b…
> I am no Paul Graham, but I think you are wasting your time. Let's say you win the case next Tuesday and the judge miraculously orders them to shut shop.
The judge won't order them to “shut shop”, but to pay damages. Though it will obviously take longer than next Tuesday (but the real objective is to use the likelihood of a verdict and the harm on both sides to secure a pretrial settlement which either involves stopping and compensation or just more compensation that amounts to a buyout.)
Re: Otonomo, with nearly $55M in funding, is cloning our product
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but neither of them was illegally copying aspects of the others' business. Business models are not protectable.
illegal or not is for the court to decide.
Are you suggesting that the article isn't describing an open and shut case, our that business models may in fact be protectable? As a former lawyer, I would say that neither of these is even a remotely close call (assuming the description is accurate).