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Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Jack, we want to follow hashtags, not lists. We want to follow people and filter out their political tweets. Force them to tag their tweets for visibility. Show follower counts of a person’s hashtags.

Don’t ban accounts. Let us choose our moderators. You can hide accounts from the mainstream with your moderation. We want to see all accounts. You already do it for porn and countries.

Social Media Moderation without Banning. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19466490

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Networks are trying to move away from long tail content since it is so expensive to moderate. I think in next 10 years expect social networks and video playing websites to become much like network television. Ie there will be a vetted list of large creators, and everyone else will be a consumer. To do that you need to take away peoples ability to control exactly whom they follow / subscribe to.

> Networks are trying to move away from long tail content This concisely expresses many of my misgivings with the Internet today. Things have been dumbed down and often cater to the lowest common denominator that people share. Evolutionarily speaking, it's chasing after low-hanging fruit (cheap and easy) and then hyper-optimizing for it to the point that it's all that remains. The problem is that it's sterile and dum…

Looks like you and me get depressed about similar things.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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I recently closed my Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit accounts. A week has passed since then and I have noticed that I have been really happy and optimistic. Probably the happiest in the last 5 years. I am still tempted to take a glance at Reddit or Twitter. It is almost a drug like addiction. These platforms are designed to provoke, agitate, and make you mad. It was immensely bad for my mental health and I am sure for…

But can you close your HN account? That's the ultimate challenge.

I do think it’s a problem. Take anyone’s comment feed and you can cherry pick the most offensive or pointed arguments and create almost any narrative. Anyone else criticized a FAANG at some point but might want a job at one?

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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If that maximized user engagement, then that is the UI they would present. The fact that they don't do that should tell you that their tests have shown algorithmic feeds are more engaging for users.

"User engagement" is not a single, well-defined, easily measurable thing. For one thing, it's easy for A/B tests to show something that looks good in the short term, but has longer-term negative effects. If your goal is to iterate quickly and stop your test as soon as you think it shows a positive result, you'll never see that. But more to the point, there's no guarantee that the "user engagement" metrics Twitter car…

I guarantee Twitter’s data scientists are using more than just “amount the user is clicking” to decide whether a UI or ranking change is beneficial.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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This seems to be a problem in general across all social media. They create a platform people like, people join up because they enjoy the format, then they tweak it until it's no longer recognizable. Twitter is a great example of this. No real UI improvements in years, just graphing gone wild. FB is the same.

The social media market seems ripe for a disruption, imho. It sounds crazy, to try and topple these current networks. But it's happened before.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

During the Joe Rogan podcast, he mentioned that what they are trying to attempt to give people the "other side" of the story rather than promoting creation of echo chambers.

Ah like Farage monopolising BBCQT - no thank you.

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What I really dislike is the spam in the notifications section. If someone likes my tweet, replies to it or retweets it, that's relevant. I don't however want to see a notification for something Tweeter deems interesting under other people you follow liked/retweed this as a notification.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually really like this feature. I'm usually not able to get to everything, so it's great to know when something important or interesting got tweeted and I know to check it out. That notification was actually what slowly made me an active Twitter user, because they kept surfacing me interesting content and giving me a reason to come back and it became a gateway for me to discove…

Then make it an opt-in. Companies should use the more "opt-in" method.

Bundle it under "experimental" or "advanced features" in an easy to use page with a very clear explanation of what each feature does.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

What I really dislike is the spam in the notifications section. If someone likes my tweet, replies to it or retweets it, that's relevant. I don't however want to see a notification for something Tweeter deems interesting under other people you follow liked/retweed this as a notification.

Just stop using the App. Browser based mobile Twitter is way better.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Algorithmic feeds are, in all cases, Satan's handiwork. What I want is to see posts from the individuals I have selected, interleaved in chronological order, with no tampering.

I follow a few hundred people with very varied interests, and I don't log in every few minutes. For non-addicted people, the algo is pretty nice. I want to see a sampling of interesting stuff I "missed" over the last day or two. If I want to go look at a particular person's chronological feed, I can do that. You can change it if you don't like it, click the sparkle button to do so, but don't think nobody likes it.

Have you ever tried Twitter lists? I find that having separate streams for "irl friends", "professional network", "people I might want to hire", etc. makes it easy to dip in, get a sense of what's up with that particular set of people/accounts, and then go about my day.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Jack Dorsey has a tough problem - he has to figure out how to change Twitter from being an "echo chamber of hate" into a useful tool.

There are some cool things on the platform, but the signal to noise ratio is horrible.

My gut feel is that a global public soapbox is not a workable idea. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just can't see how it can be done.

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