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The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by samatman »

sys_64738 wrote: post #58

I must confess I don't know the difference between the iPhone X, XR, XS, XS Max. It all seems very confused and stinks of marketing getting their claws into it. It was simple when they were numbered sequentially. Now I wonder if there will ever be an iPhone 11 as that suggests there can't be a premium on the iPhone X* as people will poo-poo that.

Three of these are easy to understand, especially if you know anything at all about how Apple has been naming iPhones since the beginning of the product line.

The fourth is the XR. Which is, as TFA indicates, a head-scratcher of a product.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by beaconstudios »

ronilan wrote: post #94
beaconstudios wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if the same thing is happening to Apple as happened to Disney - the visionary founder died, and the company slowly lost its way and became a vehicle for corporate profiteering while resting on the laurels of the visionary's pre-existing ideas.

I don't know about Apple, but you are wrong about Disney. They may have been meandering for a while but over the last decade (and change), current leadership has made three multi-billion dollar visionary acquisitions that turned the company around and brought it back to its roots as a story teller and creator/curator of American pop culture. Financial results followed the vision not the other way around ( https://www…

look at where Disney was going with his futurism and technological/sociological ideas as well though. And they may have done well recently (though I don't really think buying innovation from other companies counts as the company finding direction) but for the longest time they were known for being rent-seekers and just milking the old cartoons and fairytales for everything they could get.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by skookumchuck »

woranl wrote: post #70

Why is Apple diluting their brand? What happened to the simple product line? iPhone X this and iPhone X that is simply bad marketing. Are there product driven people in Apple anymore?

Worse, my iphone says it is an MG5W2LL/A whatever the hell that is.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by josteink »

hopler wrote: post #50
throw0u1t wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want a 7 because it comes in either 32GB or 256GB, no 64GB or 128GB. I don't want an 8 because I don't want a phone with a glass back. iPhone SE was perfect. Metal all round, small, affordable, powerful.

That's not a problem with the 7 per se, that's a problem with Apple's exploitative pricing strategy blocking a trivial engineering/marketing option. The glass back thing is a matter of taste, sure, but caring what material is inside the case is a bit silly.

> The glass back thing is a matter of taste, sure, but caring what material is inside the case is a bit silly.

What is this “case” you’re talking about?

Kind regards SE-owner

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by mrpippy »

lettergram wrote: post #40

My wife and I bought an XS (for her) and XR (for me). We both had Nexus 6p and they were at end of life and wanted to get her a nicer phone for Christmas. Well, after playing with both the XR takes better photos, generally. In addition, the XR gets probably 30% more life on a single charge. Nothing else on the XS is really much better (outside of a couple nice to haves). So now she has the XR and I have the XS. ID re…

They have exactly the same rear camera (the XS just adds an additional camera with a telephoto lens)

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by wwweston »

jinushaun wrote: post #60
marbletiles wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the iPod: the differentiation was about things people would care about, like size, capacity, portability, style, etc. You weren't made to feel cheap just because you entered at the lower price points. You wanted an iPod Mini, and it made sense that it cost less than the Classic: you were still getting "the best" version of the thing you desired. Same story with the Mac: buying the iBook didn't make you feel…

Yes! You hit the nail on the head! The iPhone needs to be split between iPhone Mini, iPhone and iPhone Pro, instead of current model of “last year”, “this year medium” and “this year large”. As much as I wanted to love the iPhone SE, it always felt like last year’s model. It wasn’t a differentiated product that had a proper update cycle. A lot of people in the community were hoping for a proper update to the SE. I al…

How often do people find in practice they have to think about specs at all? I'm typing this on an SE. It is, of course, literally last year's phone (two years) but both when I bought it and now, there's nothing except the camera that doesn't feel well above adequate (and the camera, while missing some neat low light features, is adequate) and there's a few things that feel optimal about it that simply aren't available in current models (form factor, headphone jack, and price).

I never think about specs/performance... much in the same way that I haven't thought of specs for the mid 2012 MBP I bought years ago. What are people doing with their phones that drives a sense that last year's specs aren't good enough?

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by GeekyBear »

I don't think the Chinese market slowing down is news for anyone who was paying attention last year.

>The global smartphone market has suffered a drop of 6 percent in overall sale numbers, according to a report on the third quarter of 2018 from the International Data Corporation (IDC).

Similar to the drop in smartphone sales in the first quarter of the year, the IDC points at a slowdown in the Chinese market as being one of the primary factors for the global slump.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsung-slumps-in-smart...

This has already impacted Samsung's smartphone sales much more strongly last quarter.

>Operating profit in Samsung’s smartphone division dropped 33pc from the same quarter last year to 2.2 tn won.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/10/31/samsung-re...

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by georgespencer »

protomyth wrote: post #5

I cannot help but think that an iPhone XR mini would have been a great seller if it hit the $450 range. I just don't understand Apple these days, its like they have reverted to the early 90's where they kept jacking the price until even the loyal customers had to exit the ship. I had so believed they would repeat the iPod strategy and start at the top end and slowly squeeze the market by introducing models that fille…

> Greg Joswiak, Apple vice president of product marketing, told CNET in an interview Wednesday that the device has “been our most popular iPhone each and every day since the day it became available.”

https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-iphone-xr-has-been-its-top-...

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by ronilan »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #100
ronilan wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about Apple, but you are wrong about Disney. They may have been meandering for a while but over the last decade (and change), current leadership has made three multi-billion dollar visionary acquisitions that turned the company around and brought it back to its roots as a story teller and creator/curator of American pop culture. Financial results followed the vision not the other way around ( https://www…

Walt Disney died in 1966. I'm assuming the parent poster meant the tougher times Disney faced between then and the start of the Disney Renaissance in the late 80s.

Parent said: “company slowly lost its way”.

They didn’t. They’ve been down, they’ve been up (so did Apple btw), down and up again, but as of 2019 Disney is as strong as ever (though we are in the “endgame” of this cycle).

The narrative of vision lost with founder’s death, just doesn’t work for Disney’s history.

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