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Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person

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Re: Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person

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Not the first time: Amazon Echo records private conversation and sends to co-worker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQrv5GbOKhc

IIRC, that was a case of someone inadvertently activating Alexa, and being misinterpreted. This is a completely different situation than what’s discussed in the posted article, which implies that an Amazon employee sent someone another user’s Alexa data.

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#102
I'm just waiting until people become accustomed to these devices and the tech giants reveal their new real estate play with these devices always on and built into the walls of homes.

EDIT: I am definitely feeling what Yanis Varoufakis was talking about when he said that if something isn't done soon, The Matrix will be a documentary.

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#103

This is just facebook all over again. Why can't people see trouble-tech? I never used facebook and won't ever use an alexa, nor whatever google's thing is.

The thing is that for most people avoiding this kind of tech and platforms is unlikely to have any kind of payoff for them. Life is too short.

Most peoples lives are as simple as going to school and work, raising a family, taking vacations, paying bills, and then passing away.

There will never be a moment where they can say “Yes! My avoidance of Facebook and Alexa for all my life has finally paid off! Hahaha!

The only people who can say that are people who have good reasons to hide: drug dealers with multiple lines of business, professional black hat hackers, home grown terrorists, life insurance fraudsters, etc.

The average person has nothing of interest to offer except more information about them in order to better perceive trends and distribute ads to them so that maybe they buy something.

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I've never seen a demographic breakdown of HN, but I'm 37 years old. I'm definitely not the oldest guy here, but I see history repeat itself regularly. I remember when people used location tracking as a reason to not own a cell phone. I'm talking about flip phones, mind you, not even iPhones with GPS receivers. I recall the bulk of complaints in that vein died down around the time Google Maps for phones came out.

If this happened today but with Verizon and someone's location via cell tower records, no one would use that as evidence that no one should own a cell phone. That probably tells you what you need to know about the trajectory of voice assistants.

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#105
post #85

Is there a good non-internet connected device for turning on lights with your voice?

What is wrong with using a finger to turn the lights on and off?

How do you get security updates for your fingers??

Re: Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person

#106
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) It's always listening for a keyword, and then it starts recording. It's a voice interface for a computer. 2) Your phone is doing the same thing except for it follows you around everywhere you go and records your map location, what apps you use, who you are talking to and what your web searches are. Your phone isn't recording just what you say...its recording what you do and where you do it and when you do it. It's…

I get 1) and 3), but I don’t buy 2). Your phone works with Siri/any other assistant off. The connected speakers don’t. So the comparison doesn’t hold in my opinion.

Many phones work the same way, the phone is always listening for you to say ok siri.

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#107
post #8

I don’t understand how this problem of “human error” happened at a company like Amazon/AWS. Perhaps requests for Alexa info are rare enough that the internal interface for servicing such requests isn’t fully automated. But I’d be shocked if the process involved someone (low-level data entry person, or engineer) manually typing in a customer ID number.

There is obviously more to this story than Amazon is telling. https://www.heise.de/downloads/18/2/5/6/5/3/9/6/ct.0119.016-... says that this was a "one-time error" and that "Amazon also claimed that they had discovered the error themselves". It is highly unlikely that either of these are true. The one time they made this error just happens to involve someone who is savvy enough to contact the right journalists to investigate it? And Amazon coincidently discovered the error themselves after being contacted by c't? Amazon is flat out lying.

If there is ever a case for the max GDPR fine to be imposed, this is it.

Re: Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person

#108
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) It's always listening for a keyword, and then it starts recording. It's a voice interface for a computer. 2) Your phone is doing the same thing except for it follows you around everywhere you go and records your map location, what apps you use, who you are talking to and what your web searches are. Your phone isn't recording just what you say...its recording what you do and where you do it and when you do it. It's…

You can opt out of basically every Google login/tracking in Android, except the Play store. I know because I'm logged out of everything and I disable location services. Google Maps keeps working. What I don't understand is why they have to store voice recordings instead of deleting them once they understand the vocal command. There could be a number of reasons and I don't like any of them.

> What I don't understand is why they have to store voice recordings instead of deleting them once they understand the vocal command. There could be a number of reasons and I don't like any of them.

Not that I have any insider information but a while back someone made a post on reddit about what baffles them about their work and they had a job where they basically listened to very short voice clips and saw something on the screen and they had to decide whether it was the right word on the screen or not.

Re: Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person

#109
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) It's always listening for a keyword, and then it starts recording. It's a voice interface for a computer. 2) Your phone is doing the same thing except for it follows you around everywhere you go and records your map location, what apps you use, who you are talking to and what your web searches are. Your phone isn't recording just what you say...its recording what you do and where you do it and when you do it. It's…

You can opt out of basically every Google login/tracking in Android, except the Play store. I know because I'm logged out of everything and I disable location services. Google Maps keeps working. What I don't understand is why they have to store voice recordings instead of deleting them once they understand the vocal command. There could be a number of reasons and I don't like any of them.

>except the Play store

Workaround:

1)Install F-Droid (f-droid.org) 2) Install Yalp Store from F-Droid

Re: Amazon Sends 1,700 Alexa Voice Recordings to a Random Person

#110
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Nobody can prove that. It's always listening and you have to assume always recording and transmitting. 2) My phone is a $12 throw away that speaks voice and sms (text). 3) Loose lips sink ships.

> Nobody can prove that. You guys are way to paranoid. They're a public company and they are constantly under audit. They have explicitly stated in their white papers that the device has two computers, one that just listens for the "Alexa" keyword that activates the other one for signal processing. Do you really think they would lie on those white papers? The government would be so far up their ass with fines it woul…

Yes, but is that behavior changeable with only a software update?
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