Does Amazon keep the raw recordings for GDPR compliance reasons? It seems to me keeping them just creates liability? (Yes data analysis for targeting and such would be valuable, but those can be done with, say transcripts instead of the raw recordings)
The actual recordings are the most valuable data for modeling purposes so I actually assume they try to store it to improve the system
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#13Amazon Echo records private conversation and sends to co-worker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQrv5GbOKhc
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#14> "Using these files, it was fairly easy to identify the person involved and his female companion; weather queries, first names, and even someone’s last name enabled us to quickly zero in on his circle of friends,” according to the report. “Public data from Facebook and Twitter rounded out the picture.” Please keep in mind the next time you or a friend says "well, what do I care if Amazon knows when I ask to turn the…
Speaking of phones, aren't most people's smartphones already "an always on microphone in their homes"?
It is not a nitpick. Accidentally recording or even intentionally recording is many orders of magnitude simpler when the device is supposed to always be listening.
The fact that a single employee even could make the mistake mentioned in the articles is one example of why. Eventhough it also really does hint that the backend isn't up to par at amazon.
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#15This is just facebook all over again. Why can't people see trouble-tech? I never used facebook and won't ever use an alexa, nor whatever google's thing is.
At the risk of stating the obvious; Facebook has more than demonstrated the opposite.
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#16> "Using these files, it was fairly easy to identify the person involved and his female companion; weather queries, first names, and even someone’s last name enabled us to quickly zero in on his circle of friends,” according to the report. “Public data from Facebook and Twitter rounded out the picture.” Please keep in mind the next time you or a friend says "well, what do I care if Amazon knows when I ask to turn the…
Speaking of phones, aren't most people's smartphones already "an always on microphone in their homes"?
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#17Some are considered tech people who should know stuff like this could happen, but they just don't care or don't think it will happen to them.
Somewhere there is an ex-Stasi officer who is thinking "I wish we were that good and had people fooled to voluntarily install listening devices and didn't have to tap phone lines and crawl around basements and rooftops".
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#18Does this qualify as a GDPR violation?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
The actual recordings are the most valuable data for modeling purposes so I actually assume they try to store it to improve the system
that makes sense. though I wonder if for training purposes they can simply remove the user identifier. (like anonymizing them for instance)
The user were easy to identify because if I listen to the last twenty queries you made to alexa between what you ask, what other people say in the background, what you talk about and what noise is in the background that gives me a lot of information; that's exactly how they were able to identify some of the users from their recordings.
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#20Does Amazon keep the raw recordings for GDPR compliance reasons? It seems to me keeping them just creates liability? (Yes data analysis for targeting and such would be valuable, but those can be done with, say transcripts instead of the raw recordings)
The actual recordings are the most valuable data for modeling purposes so I actually assume they try to store it to improve the system
But if the GDPR requires them to send the recordings to users upon request, they need to have a way to do that -- either by exposing a service on the web, or by providing access to customer service employees to handle the request. Not sure how I feel about that.