Great article, thanks for sharing. Of relevance here is TiddlyWiki (www.tiddlywiki.com), a personal note taking tool, that includes some of the salient features, like transclusion and user-generated linking, mentioned in the article. In addition, the approach supports a built-in programming capability to allow computation on content (e.g., dynamic filtering and content generation) and extension via plugins. All information (content and Javascript code) is within a single html document.
Freeing the Web from the Browser
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Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been building an app that (among other things) can kind of generate this for Twitter--if people are discussing a link, it finds tweets about that link, quote-tweets of tweets about that link, and replies to tweets about that link (in addition to tracking the number of retweets and likes). (The app is pre-release but it's on social media as https://twitter.com/flockpath ) I've been thinking that I should 'break o…
How do you rank tweets? Does Twitter API allows to sort by threads size? I actually wrote a small extension to collect comments from HN and Reddit using their search API, and it's very useful for me. https://imgur.com/a/vWy5NaP
Oh, very cool!
My app is actually meant to be like a 'newsfeed for tweets' that shows the top 10 tweets of the day engaged by people you follow, so it vacuums up a bunch of tweets (from tweets engaged--liked, retweeted, etc--by friends of my users) so then it just internally counts which have the most retweets/likes. So what my app thinks is the most retweeted thing might just be reflective of my internal data set rather than what's the actual most-retweeted thing.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#103Surprised nobody has mentioned HyperCard - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercar... There was a very compelling vision for the web, by Doug Engelbart and others in the 60's and 70's. Unfortunately, because of the computing culture's attitude of forgetting even the recent history / understanding what foundational work was done (like real scientific fields do!), the web folks didn't have a lot th…
WebAssembly may eventually get us closer to that vision.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been building an app that (among other things) can kind of generate this for Twitter--if people are discussing a link, it finds tweets about that link, quote-tweets of tweets about that link, and replies to tweets about that link (in addition to tracking the number of retweets and likes). (The app is pre-release but it's on social media as https://twitter.com/flockpath ) I've been thinking that I should 'break o…
How do you rank tweets? Does Twitter API allows to sort by threads size? I actually wrote a small extension to collect comments from HN and Reddit using their search API, and it's very useful for me. https://imgur.com/a/vWy5NaP
cool extension - is it available in store?
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#105This looked interesting, so I started reading the author's dissertation, but I've been sidetracked/put-off by its overbearing copyright statement. This copy of the dissertation has been supplied on condition that anyone who consults it is understood to recognise that its copyright rests with its author and that no quotation from the dissertation and no information derived from it may be published without the prior wr…
I guess you can cut and paste what you as a copyright statement which doesn't mean it's enforceable. I rather liked Allie Broch's one https://lizerbramlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Copyrigh...
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#106I would love a web where you can comment with your forum circle on any URI available on internet. Eg. I open some research paper and I click "comments" in web browsers. And I see comments from /r/machinelearning, hackernews etc. Also real time chat would be awesome to have for each of websites. Nowadays it work for me like this - found something interesting X - type "X site:myforum" in google to learn more about it F…
This utopian alternative is probably the internet the search engines fear, so the current consensus that this would make things "too messy" is presumably what the search engines want you to think. But wouldn't it be the embodiment of the original dream of a decentralized, democratized web? Where loose collectives of people can self-organize their content, discussion and publishing around shared topics of interest, wi…
I'm not seeing anything preventing the web from continuing to work like you describe. What is stopping these loose collectives from publishing and discussing among themselves without outside interference? You imply that governmental neglect and bigcorp greed are to blame, but I'm not understanding how you connect those two things.
Self-publishing on the Internet is cheaper and easier than it ever was in the past. So why do people flock to Reddit, Facebook, etc? Because they are even easier and cheaper, are easier to find, and have a built in audience. But none of those facts relate to governmental regulation or lack thereof, that I can see.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#107We almost got there with Pingbacks being the first step. Then they devolved into meaningless spam. Without a system of manual curation, it's impossible to build something where _everyone_ contributes. Spam scales easily, and moderation and curation does not. A thousand good links buried under a million spam links don't add any value. And we can talk about reputation and proof of stake systems until we're blue in the…
I never understood that; PoW seems like not merely an elegant solution, but a simple one. What am I missing?
My gut sense is that proof-of-work as a spam deterrent can _improve_ the signal-to-noise ratio, but won't bring it up to an acceptable level.
Say you have a simple proof-of-work protecting some action (posting a comment, voting up/down a story, etc.), and you have its difficulty tuned to allow a median-productivity human on a typical desktop computer to do that action at their typical rate.
A spambot doesn't need to sleep, take days off, and can get illicit access to much more computing power than any one human.
It _would_ probably shift spamming activities to focus on more central, high-value venues, though. hmm.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#108Surprised nobody has mentioned HyperCard - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercar... There was a very compelling vision for the web, by Doug Engelbart and others in the 60's and 70's. Unfortunately, because of the computing culture's attitude of forgetting even the recent history / understanding what foundational work was done (like real scientific fields do!), the web folks didn't have a lot th…
WebAssembly may eventually get us closer to that vision.
WebAssembly will no doubt give us more freedom, but still has a lot of constraints. Also, it's fundamentally a hack built on top of the browser ecosystem, not replacing browsers entirely!
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#109I would love a web where you can comment with your forum circle on any URI available on internet. Eg. I open some research paper and I click "comments" in web browsers. And I see comments from /r/machinelearning, hackernews etc. Also real time chat would be awesome to have for each of websites. Nowadays it work for me like this - found something interesting X - type "X site:myforum" in google to learn more about it F…
You want https://hypothes.is
You're going to get a lot of dismissal here because the idea is old and has been tried many times. I wouldn't let that stop you, annotation is very useful. The thing I am skeptical of however is that it makes the most sense 'as a forum'. I don't think it makes a very good forum, it does make an excellent collaborative research tool. More sane would be to have these annotations and import them into a real forum tool.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
This utopian alternative is probably the internet the search engines fear, so the current consensus that this would make things "too messy" is presumably what the search engines want you to think. But wouldn't it be the embodiment of the original dream of a decentralized, democratized web? Where loose collectives of people can self-organize their content, discussion and publishing around shared topics of interest, wi…
I'm not seeing anything preventing the web from continuing to work like you describe. What is stopping these loose collectives from publishing and discussing among themselves without outside interference? You imply that governmental neglect and bigcorp greed are to blame, but I'm not understanding how you connect those two things. Self-publishing on the Internet is cheaper and easier than it ever was in the past. So…
> Buried deep down google's search result
The problem with self publishing is that you're practically invisible to the rest of the world and you'd have to join the big players platforms to get some visibility...