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Developments in tech in Toronto over the past seven years

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Re: Developments in tech in Toronto over the past seven years

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Post by qcpydev »

apercu wrote: post #96
qcpydev wrote: post #84

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Hi, I'm a contractor in Québec City work as a Business analyst. Can you tell me what is the hourly rate in Toronto ? And how do you find your clients ? It's my first year of working as a contractor. Thanks.

Depends on your experience/expertise. I typically see vast ranges with more junior people charging $50/hr, intermediates at $80/hr, and seniors (people with decades of business experience) between $100-180/hr. I sub out work now and then, I'll add an email address to my profile. I'd like to know your skill sets.

Oh thanks for your reply. Here in Québec city consulting companies charge 70-75 for gov contracting, and in insurances companies you can get 80-100 per hour. Yes add your e-mail adress, we can take the discussion further :)

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Post by sonnyblarney »

tomsun wrote: post #87
sonnyblarney wrote: post #71

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I'm a Montreal, this is pure spin. The 'low unemployment' bit is funny considering how many underemployed, homeless and in betweens there are. I don't remotely buy it. The economy in Montreal is reasonable but soft. I guess compared to itself in 2001? The AI hub is correct for now, that might change.

I think if you can get a decent tech job and if you speak French. Montreal is definitely a better pick than Toronto.

If by 'better pick' you mean almost 1/2 salary.

I've lived here for quite some time and grew up in Toronto. I've lived in the Valley and around the world, I'm acquainted with most issues.

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Post by graeme »

dang wrote: post #48
kevintb wrote: post #24

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That's not nice. Please don't do regional dissing here.

The praries are cold, flat, and devoid of any cities of interest (in the sense that people visit to see the cities).

People do live in cities in alberta, but the cities are mostly car oriented. If you want to live in a walkable area you're mostly out of luck in the part of Canada between Toronto and Vancouver.

There are reasons people really enjoy being in the praries of course, but it really is a serious lifestyle choice you have to make.

Re: Developments in tech in Toronto over the past seven years

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Post by graeme »

Apocryphon wrote: post #20
acchow wrote: post #16

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Toronto has the best spin department in the world. I never stop seeing listicles with Toronto in the top 3, reading about how great it is a place to live and work, and how it's become a leader in innovation/tech/art/music/film/finance. The endless fluff pieces are a bit tiresome.

How about Montréal?

COL massively lower than Toronto. Vast swaths of walkable, mixed zoned neighbourhoods.

Self employed, so can't comment on salary.

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Post by cam3ham »

raverbashing wrote: post #57

No, Toronto isn't a "Global tech leader" A lot of startups, but a significant amount seem very "gimmicky". (Probably less than SV, but it seems there are less companies that "started up" then grew to a significant size). That or you can work for the Megacorps, usually in the suburbs in their lifeless campuses. Not to mention the salaries. Also Canada tech companies in general seems to use less open source than USA or…

Ecobee, WealthSimple, Shopify,

Re: Developments in tech in Toronto over the past seven years

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Post by cam3ham »

microcolonel wrote: post #74
bungie4 wrote: post #69

I'm from Toronto. Congrats to Toronto for its accomplishments. It should be realized that their is a great standard of living available outside of major tech centers all across the country(s). The opportunity is different, but the jobs do exist. I'd argue that their is far more opportunity outside of tech centers than within. A tech center addresses the issue of distribution. More specifically, of concentration. Havi…

As a Canadian-U.S. dual citizen who has spent my whole life in Canada, and most of it in Toronto, I honestly can't justify settling down in Ontario. The taxes are high and complicated, the services are subpar (and I don't use most of them), and Canada largely lacks the civil rights stability enjoyed in the U.S. under the Constitution (as currently amended and interpreted), particularly regarding freedom of speech and…

lolwat

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Post by refurb »

DKnoll wrote: post #81
refurb wrote: post #78

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What? The Calgary-Edmonton corridor has the highest salaries in Canada and over 1M people in each city.

I didn't mention the marginally higher average wage (across all industries, not specifically IT, which does not average higher) or population of Calgary. For reference the Toronto metro area has a population of 6.4 million with the Calgary metro area having 1.3. If we're talking about the praries as a whole which the parent was, that also includes Winnipeg and Regina.

You said:

The Canadian praries (AB, SK, MB) are rough. It's cheap because people don't want to live there.

Re: Developments in tech in Toronto over the past seven years

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Post by ninjakeyboard »

motohagiography wrote: post #93
ninjakeyboard wrote: post #21

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The wages in toronto have skyrocketed in the last couple years. I'm looking for functional programming people if you're interested I can pay at least $120k/year and offer considerable equity to work on realtime systems. We're profitable and not funded. We have a couple seats to fill and I'm having a hard time because people in Scala circles are expecting $150k/year in Toronto. Many of my peers are making $150k no pro…

Congrats on having a profitable self funded company, and in Toronto, that is amazing. As an example situation, I'd like in this pseudononymous situation to ask what are the factors and principles that makes $120k/y a reasonable offer for a functional programmer in Toronto? A consultant earns about $1k+/day, or double the proposed salary, and companies typically pay $1600-2400/day for contractors through an agency, so…

The salary is partly imposed on me as a constraint but we are also offering an unreal equity package vs what I've seen (multiple % in voting shares.) My salary is the same. And it's not low for Toronto. With my experience I know I could make at least another 20k but the equity compensates.

Our team is extremely small so the value of work contributed by each head (given the individual can successfully contribute in such an environment) is very high.

The issue is less finding takers and moreso finding the right takers. I've turned down people who were very interested because I wasn't sure about them. Unfortunately, I have been outbid on hires I was sure about which is very difficult to swallow. I would like to be able to offer at the upper end of the spectrum but the equity does have some value in the picture. I'm sure we could do an either or thing. Like you choose - either more cash or less with more equity. Because not everyone seems to be very interested in ownership. They just want to be paid.

Re: Developments in tech in Toronto over the past seven years

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Post by DKnoll »

refurb wrote: post #107
DKnoll wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't mention the marginally higher average wage (across all industries, not specifically IT, which does not average higher) or population of Calgary. For reference the Toronto metro area has a population of 6.4 million with the Calgary metro area having 1.3. If we're talking about the praries as a whole which the parent was, that also includes Winnipeg and Regina.

You said: The Canadian praries (AB, SK, MB) are rough. It's cheap because people don't want to live there.

I don't see how that contradicts anything else I've said. The average wage in Nunavut is higher than Toronto, does that make it a better place to live?
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