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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by abnry »

ajross wrote: post #59
ng12 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And no one whines that they don't get free conference admission or airline tickets or printer paper or whatever Those are terrible analogies. YouTube offers free hosting with the ability to opt out of monetizing your videos -- features that they will apparently punish you for using. That is absurdly user-hostile.

Meh. And we've come full circle. It seems to my eyes that they only "punish" you for not advertising if you have the means to pay other expenses but want to freeload on youtube specifically. And I don't see why I should care about that. It's very likely that Blender is going to have the same problem with Dailymotion and Vimeo too. No one wants to (or has the means) to be a dumping ground for hosting other people's co…

You make fair points. The biggest issue here is YouTube's recurrent communication problem. Blender and MIT Open Courseware, I am almost sure, were blindsided by this change. They would have worked out a plan ahead of time otherwise. Just like so many other Youtubers blindsided by all the new rules, so were they. That, fundamentally, is user hostile.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by ucaetano »

theyinwhy wrote: post #86
ucaetano wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, for free. You can create an account and upload as many videos as you want without paying absolutely anything. Even more, without handing over any personal information. But hey, feel free to upload your videos elsewhere.

By uploading videos you normally provide personal information: info about the video, context and, most of the time, the video itself. By accessing videos you normally provide personal information: ip address, playlists, access history, browser fingerprint, device id,...

I don't think Blender is providing any personal information in the video.

Not to mention that you can upload it from a burner account and device in a cafe.

Oh, and you always have to option, well, not to upload it.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by Skunkleton »

andai wrote: post #87
laken wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily enough, PewDiePie is no longer on YouTube's good-side, and virtually all of his newly uploaded videos get demonetized by YouTube. He's no longer "advertiser-friendly"

Why am I hearing this about almost everyone I watch? Isn't that a lose-lose-lose for creators, YouTube and advertisers?

It is likely that PewDiePie has a negative enough image that YouTube believes that associating a given brand with his content will not generate ROI for the advertisers. By demonetizing these videos 1) the advertisers win because their ads are shown more frequently in "profitable" spots, 2) YouTube wins because they build trust with their advertisers, and 3) YouTube wins again because they don't have to pay out to the content creator for valueless ad spots.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by faladSingers »

djsumdog wrote: post #10

I'm curious what YouTube's real numbers are for YouTube profitability. Are these channels at such high subscriber rates that they're cutting into YouTube's ability to sustain themselves? They recently demonetized all of the Salad Fingers videos, causing David Firth to remove all those videos from YouTube and only allowing them to Patreon subscribers via Vimeo. I hope this pushes towards more independent, distributed…

I just made the mistake of watching a single Salad Fingers video, and it was a waste of bandwidth, and I want those precious minutes of my life back, but I can't make that happen.

It's not spam, but it certainly is worthless.

There's something to be said, regarding platforms having a need to project an image of depth and variety, and there was a time when it might have been useful to have something like Salad Fingers hanging around, to fill out the infinite scroll playlist, but let's not pretend that Youtube has a gap like that, needing occupants anymore.

Youtube is eye-to-eye with (or far ahead of) Netflix and Amazon, in that they are active content producers now, and it's out-of-touch to imagine them as a DIY empowerment engine, providing a means for nobodies to bootstrap themselves out of obscurity scribbles we all might hypothetically fawn over for thirty seconds, while checking to see if the infinite scroll will crash our browsers.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by soulkito »

teilo wrote: post #74

Great. Just when my daughter has installed Blender to learn 3D modelling.

As someone who recently started learning Blender I recommend the YouTube channel Blender Guru. They guy makes great tutorials for both beginners and more advanced users.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by drb91 »

stcredzero wrote: post #84
Joeboy wrote: post #8

So this seems to have happened because Youtube wants The Blender Foundation to agree to have their videos monetized. I'm not clear if they want that because of bogus copyright claims, EU legislation etc, or just because they favour making money over not making money? Edit: Either way looking for alternatives seems like a good idea.

> So this seems to have happened because YouTube wants The Blender Foundation to agree to have their videos monetized. "Don't be evil."

Isn’t it convenient they don’t define any morality or worldview?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by [deleted] »

otterpro wrote: post #70

Why not switch to Vimeo, a well-established and stable video hosting platform? There's no advertising and no shenanigans of ads being forced on your video. The hosting is not free, but at least you have control over your videos and privacy issues. Peertube, d.tube, and other federated/decentralized streaming service are really not that reliable, at least from my experience.

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by dragontamer »

teilo wrote: post #74

Great. Just when my daughter has installed Blender to learn 3D modelling.

Look up the "Humane Rigging" set of tutorials. Its the best Blender tutorial I've found so far, but it only covers rigging. (To an insane level of detail, but its ONLY about rigging).
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