So it's a weasel move. Let the record show that Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg weaseled out of GDPR to the greatest degree possible given the opportunity. It's all perfectly legal, but decidedly non-excellent and non-exemplary.
Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
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Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are assuming GDPR is good. I don’t think so. I don’t want GDRP in the US. The worst abuser of privacy - right now - is the government. I don’t think putting redtapes on startups will solve anything.
That is a somewhat valid concern, but here in Denmark (EU) GDPR har actually been helpful to highlight some of the data collection by the state, and some of it, has been set on standby or at least been postponed because of concerns (student mental health/well beeing, was so to be registered, and stored on a SSN level “for research”)
In Sweden (before GDPR) some inofficial list of "known elements of problems" or somesuch was kept by some police officers. This was already illegal before GDPR and lead to a lot of problems and news.
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are assuming GDPR is good. I don’t think so. I don’t want GDRP in the US. The worst abuser of privacy - right now - is the government. I don’t think putting redtapes on startups will solve anything.
Do you also think that food industry should not be regulated, I mean is it important that rats could walk on your food ingredients as long as users don't know and are happy with the final product? Do you think that food businesses are affected by this regulations and we do not see the a move fast and kill people in the industry? Same for fire safety,road safety, air transport safety regulations, I am sure that many b…
Rats should only be allowed in the kitchens of startups
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#104> But the fact that the button to reject the new Terms of Service isn’t even a button, it’s a tiny “see your options” hyperlink, shows how badly Facebook wants to avoid you closing your account. > When Facebook’s product designer for the GDPR flow was asked if she thought this hyperlink was the best way to present the alternative to the big “I Accept” button, she disingenuously said yes, eliciting scoffs from the roo…
It all comes in babysteps. A little here, a little there and when you look back you can't see where it all started going wrong.
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#105> But the fact that the button to reject the new Terms of Service isn’t even a button, it’s a tiny “see your options” hyperlink, shows how badly Facebook wants to avoid you closing your account. > When Facebook’s product designer for the GDPR flow was asked if she thought this hyperlink was the best way to present the alternative to the big “I Accept” button, she disingenuously said yes, eliciting scoffs from the roo…
Is there a video of this statement?
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#106So it's a weasel move. Let the record show that Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg weaseled out of GDPR to the greatest degree possible given the opportunity. It's all perfectly legal, but decidedly non-excellent and non-exemplary.
Not surprised at all. Facebook is not going to change.
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
The GDPR applies to people located within the EU, irrespective of citizenship. So it would protect a US national in Berlin, but not a German national in New York.
By people located you mean residents? Just to be more specific.
Residency not required, I’ve heard.
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
The GDPR applies to people located within the EU, irrespective of citizenship. So it would protect a US national in Berlin, but not a German national in New York.
By people located you mean residents? Just to be more specific.
No, just that's where they are. The law says a US citizen who happens to be in Berlin (maybe on vacation) is subject to German law. Fine says GDPR, I'm EU law, so I apply to that US citizen too.
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are assuming GDPR is good. I don’t think so. I don’t want GDRP in the US. The worst abuser of privacy - right now - is the government. I don’t think putting redtapes on startups will solve anything.
The European governments are bound by GDPR in the same way companies are. Surely bringing a GDPR-like law to the US would be a good thing?
Data collection for security and intelligence purposes by governments is exempt from GDPR rules, I think.
Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law
#110Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…
Facebook just needs to be gone forever now.
Why?